Good evening,
I am looking for a cheaper motion sensor with a fast recovery time. The Hue sensors, for example, are great and take about 10 to 20 seconds, while the Sonoff takes around 1 minute or more.
Does anyone know of a good sensor that works with Hubitat and has a good recovery time? I need quite a few, and with Hue, the cost adds up quickly.
please model and type info.
Best regards,
Andre
I have been using the Zooz ZSE11 multi sensor, The recovery times are settable in the driver. Zooz has a simple indoor motion sensor as well but I have not used it.
Which Sonoff motion sensor? The SNZB-03P has a configurable motion timeout from 5 to 60 seconds.
I think this is exposed in @kkossev's driver:
From @ZWL-Andre time-zone, they don't appear to be in North America, which limits the use of some (most?) Zooz devices.
Got it.
Why not consider the one I linked to? It works with @kkossev's driver, and has a configurable motion timeout. Also available for a reasonable price directly from Sonoff as well as from other online vendors.
Hi Aaiyar,
It might be a good option, but I'm new to Hubitat (coming from HASS). I’m not sure how it works with installing additional drivers, like the kkossev driver. Does that work with the Hubitat Package Manager (I’ve already installed that package manager).
kind regards,
Yes, Hubitat Package Manager does make it easier to add community drivers. View it as something like HACS in HA.
But you can also install a custom driver manually. As described in the documentation:
Just to note...every community driver/app is not in HPM, but many/most are. There are "release" topics in the forum here that majority of devs create for their community app/drivers, and they will usually state in the OP of their topics whether their stuff is in HPM or not.
Regardless, just takes a few moments to do a search in HPM for a driver/app you've heard about and want to try. 
I recently got these that I like very much and very cheap-8.00 USD shipped. They use a CR2450(included) and has been running for 2 months in a busy area and battery is 96%
Reset time is configurable with @kkossev driver, and device is very small, about the size of 3 CR2450's stacked. another listing has a bundle of 3 for even cheaper
@ZWL-Andre When you say recovery time do you mean "cool down time" meaning the time from when it shows inactive to when it will pick up motion again? Or when motion stops to it shows inactive?
I ask because I use many of these and I don't have a 1 minute time in either scenario.
Also, the 03P is the direct replacement for the 03. They no longer produce the 03. They now make the 03P. I have several of them as well and really like them.
@ZWL-Andre Some important questions I either somehow missed or have not been asked and answered.
I see you posted a link to Z2M. That opens the door for a huge number of inexpensive motion sensors. Many of us (myself included) run both hubs and use HADB to bring devices from HA to HE for automation. Some go the opposite direction with the HE > HA integration. And still others (me again) use both directions for various reasons.
For me, a good motion sensor is one that works consistently, and only when I really need it, resets to inactive quickly. In my home, there is only one place where I find that is actually neseccary, and that is my garage. Of course you have your reasons, but the location may change the requirements a bit. For example, inside vs out, since you mentioned Hue motion sensors. I have three of the Outdoor Hue motion sensors and I agree that they are very good (I personally didn't like the indoor Hue as much).
Therefor, without all the information, I can tell you that my experience is Hue Outdoor are excellent, and not always expensive on Amazon for used prices. But if you're outside North America, that might be different. For indoor, Aqara P1 can be set down to a 2 second detection interval and I don't persionally find $30 CAD to be a bad price for such a good sensor that runs for so long without needing its batteries changed.
If you don't mind hacking a bit, the original Aqara motion sensors from Aliexpress are only $12 CAD with free shipping (depends on where you are for your price). These can be easily modified to reset in 1 second. On Z2M they are very stable. I use one modified original Aqara and one Aqara P1 in my garage. The original Aqara is above my hubs and other gear, so it was easy for me to add a 5v to 3v buck converter so that one never needs batteries, and there's plenty of open USB ports nearby to power it.
Tnx for the info, i wil check one for a test.
Hi, about your questions:
For me, a good sensor is one with a fast recovery time (I’ve seen someone here call it a cooldown time).
That means the time between detecting motion and being able to detect motion again should be as short as possible.
kind regards, Andre
Sensors with really fast reset times typically have horrible battery life (at least in busy areas). That might be fine in your application, just keep the fact that >reports = <battery life.
I only mention it as there was a person on here a few years ago insisting they needed 5s reset time, which they were able to do on their device of choice, and then they were back in about 3 months complaining "why are my batteries dying so fast!!!" 
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haha indeed your right about the battery life, 
but a fast reset lets say about 20 a 25 seconds is fine for my use.
The nice thing about Hue’s 2x aaa batteries. Set to 10 seconds and still last for years, although not the least intrusive looking.
Not in busy areas where they end up sending thousands of messages a day they don't (for me). I have some at a business and they less ~6 months. The person running the office insisted they needed the "fastest reset possible" - even though their logic/automation does not need it... At all. Meh, they are the ones that have to change the batteries, so I don't care.
They do last a VERY long time though, and I like them very much.
For something like a motion sensor I am fine with them making it larger to fit in a larger battery capacity.
The recover time is dependant on the driver a good bit of the time. Many motion sensors have motion and presence. Presence being the state that uses the time period to wait before going inactive due to lack of motion events.
So you probably have lots of options.
The wired mmwave sensor drivers have the ability to do adjustable times and are also very fast to alert on motion. Might be something to investigate.
Now that I understand better, yes the Sonoff you showed can have a little bit of a long cool down period. I have not tried adjusting the 03P.
One thing I done was in areas with a lot of traffic to help adjust for that "cool down" I installed both a PIR (the ones you sent the attachment) and an MMWave Sensor (Linptech, Moe's (same units). The big reason was to use the MMWave sensor to make sure the light didn't turn off when someone was there if they got still for a period of time. The PIR is a little snappier than the MMWave so the rule activates slightly quicker. Hardly noticable to be honest.
One of the benefits to this is to write the rule to have both triggers - motion from the PIR OR the motion from the MMWave sensor to trigger the automation. For me that is turn on the lights. I then have the rule written to turn off when the MMWave Sensor goes inactive. This is good because that cycle is typically quicker than a PIR sensor. The MMWave sensor has no cool down basically so if the lights turn off and you walk directly back in the MMWave will turn the lights back on.
Keep in mind you would need access to mains power plug for an MMWave sensor like that. I believe Aqara released a battery power though I am not certain.
IF YOU can find nyce sensors they have very quick times and awesome battery life.. but they were pricy.
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