Jasco may be making firmware available for their products

For those who haven't been following this, Jasco got called out on Twitter a couple days ago for nor providing firmware files for their products:

They responded today with what seems to be a promising development:

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Wow, Linus has a huge presence online. When he reviews stuff, companies pay attention. Not good to piss him off...

I wonder if that "home assistant and others" will include Hubitat?

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I was amazed when I started this journey of home automation to find that many of the tried and true brands that I have known as my life are absolute crap in the home automation segment.

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This is great. Maybe next they can build stuff that lasts long enough to need firmware updates.

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Hopefully a firmware update for their god awful Enbrighten Zigbee Dimmers.

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I have the same issue Linus has. When you turn off the switch manually, the motion sensor reports no motion, so when you move your hand away, the light turns right back on because motion goes active. Very annoying. Hopefully we can get those firmware updates on Hubitat

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Every switch and dimmer (Z-Wave) I own is made by Jasco\GE, so you'd think I'd be excited about this. But they've all always worked perfectly without any firmware related issue. Never had a need for a firmware update.

Obviously that may not be true for every device they make, but I've been an extremely happy customer without firmware updates. Been very much no muss, no fuss, for me. :slight_smile:

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Found the relevant videos.

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Forgot to ask, are you guys using @JasonJoel's drivers for these motion sensing switches/dimmers? Wondering if they help w/the issues you're having w/these combo-devices.

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I have this switch in my bathrooms and don't have that problem. Try using a motion zone and stick the switch in the zone. Then use the zone for your rules.

I'm using the stock driver.

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While some of Linus's content is still the eye-rolling nonsense that got him a reputation as a bit of an edgelord, he really has stepped things up lately. I've found myself watching his channel more and more in the past couple of months. I hope he keeps it up.

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I like watching some of his more ridiculous builds as they are closer to what we use at work.

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I just put it inside a zone like you said and that fixed it! Thanks!

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Np, glad to help.

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I'm glad he brought this up. It's not just Jasco either - many manufacturers have their firmware under lock and key. For instance, I just requested a bunch of firmware from Zooz yesterday and it felt like I was doing a back alley drug deal.

On one hand, this technology has never really needed a lot of firmware updates until 3-4 years ago. The devices were simple and there wasn't really much to change. But as things have become more interesting, and people are finding more interesting things to do with these devices, firmware updates are more important.

Additionally, with all the different hubs, there hasn't been an easy way to update them, especially with everything always changing so rapidly. The device manufacturers can't develop their own firmware updater - they have to rely on hub software, or a third party developer. I'm not sure of a way around that.

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Yeah... @agnes.zooz

I love that zooz will provide the firmware files to end consumers.

But I definitely find it frustrating that the current versions aren't posted anywhere, the version numbers aren't posted anywhere consistently, you have to keep bugging support to get copies of them.

So leaps and bounds better than jasco, but still a pretty frustrating experience.

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On one hand I can see how keeping firmware changes less fluid has forced the blossoming smart ecosystem to revolve around the device's capabilities, rather than the hub's.

Thank you danabw. I don't want to go against the grain here for anyone, and knowing full well everyone's experience can be different... GE/Jasco are the main bulk of my dimmer/switches making up over 90% of my motion detection. Once set, these have been most reliable. Some are set to operate the connected light independently, some control the connected light, or other light, or even other things entirely through Hubitat integrations. These have been great for me (and my simple mind) and doubt I would update the firmware if offered.

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Yeah it's a use case thing with Linus. If the use case doesn't apply you're fine.

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Agreed. And, thank you. I expect many here create far more complicated integrations and are far more experienced. Some of the stuff you guys come up with leave me scratching my head and sayin whodowhatnow? :rofl: But I am very grateful you all are here developing and guiding (holding our hands) through this experience.
Thank you al and thanks for your patience.

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