Update: I just have weird problems with this stuff .. all the time!

Well .. I just weird problems with this stuff .. all the time !
Using C-8 on : 2.3.8.117 Not sure why I have soooo many problems :frowning:
Its very frustrating because I used x-10 for 20 years and it ALWAYS worked
with out having to baby sit the darn thing all the time !

I have a SMALL system : 21 - zigbee devices and 6 - z-wave devices.
Device's going off line .. having to readd them mostly ZigBee.
Same Battery button device's ( 5 ) total and only ( 1 ) will report battery
[dev:8] - 2024-02-16 07:16:21.943 AM[info] - 4-button-Switch - Living Room battery is 100%
Many of the windows do not show info like the Zigbee Network Graph .
When I try to do a local and it downloads I get a htm file not the manual.lzf
backupDB_fileName=latest (5).htm < inside it says : backup file not found

I see people with HUGE systems and have 100's of APPS and custom drivers. and running webcore
and all sorts of stuff ... that seems to work ok. ( I can not run crap without the hub freaking out. )
I am and can only it seems to run stock stuff with out the hub not working right. ( 2nd Hub BTW )

Now to top it all .. the Dashboard never seems to work right ...
The tiles just seem to stop working click a tile and it just gets the please wait symbol.
I goto the device and can tun it on and off just fine from the device page.
Most times I have to delete the tile and re-add it to get it to work again !

And yes I have tried changing the router to use different Channel bandwidth's ect.
I know this is mostly just a rant, and I'm not sure if anybody can really help. but it's getting very frustrating. I just want the system to work. without me having to babysit it. If anybody has any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

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Crazy! Don't shoot the messenger, but here is what I do when things aren't adding up!

  1. Does the dashboard behave strange, lock up on different PC's? I also turn off many of my extra extensions, like adware, tampermonkey, brave shields for my local dashboards just to insure something isn't being inadvertently blocked.
  2. How about different browsers. I use Brave and my extensive number of dashboards are working as expected.
  3. Not sure if you have Sharptools.io dashboard, but I check that function as well to determine is it my hub or a layered HTML issue.
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Don;t forget us Community developers messing something up... :slight_smile:

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As a best practice, I would change the WiFi settings slightly...

Modify the 2.4GHz settings to use only 20MHz Channel Bandwidth.

I would also recommend changing the 5 GHz channel bandwidth to 40MHz (or a max of 80MHz if you have 1Gbps Internet Service.)

I would also recommend changing the Hubitat Zigbee channel to 20, instead of 17.

This all goes back to reducing the chances of 2.4GHz interference between WiFi and Zigbee.

Your current setup is configured for the MAXIMUM 2.4 GHz interference.

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But we can also help solve problems.... :wink:

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Are you using Google Chrome? If so, they recently changed Chrome when downloading a file from some sites. You'll see when the download completes an option in the browser to "Keep" the file. Be sure to click "Keep", otherwise the local backup file will not be saved correctly by Chrome.

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Ok .. thanks KurtSanders
I went in a changed the my adware and blockers to my current IP for the Hub.
( I forgot to do this when I got the new hub and changed the local IP ) DOH !~

Seems weird that it works fine after I re-add the tile though :confused:

ogiewon I will change the settings you suggested.
I do have GIG service here .. should I change the 5g to 80 ONLY ? I see it set to 20/40.80/160

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ogiewon I use Opera Mostly But happens with
Chrome and Opera

5GHz is not going to conflict with Zigbee or Z-Wave. Using 80MHz channel width for 5GHz would limit the WiFi throughput to about 433Mbps... So, feel free to use 160GHz if any of your 5GHz WiFi devices actually support it. Most will probably not. :slight_smile:

Sorry I am confused LOL
I would also recommend changing the 5 GHz channel bandwidth to 40MHz (or a max of 80MHz if you have 1Gbps Internet Service.)

What setting for 5g ?

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You can leave the 5Ghz WiFi settings as-is for now. They are not hurting anything related to your home automation. Using a 160MHz channel width is helpful for higher throughput over WiFi for devices that support it... However, if you have multiple WiFi Access Points throughout your house, it is often better to use a lower channel width to prevent the multiple APs from bumping into one another.

If you have just one WiFi AP, then leave the 5GHz settings alone for now.

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Yeap Just one router .. Ok will do thanks ..

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Question ..

How the heck are you guys getting this stuff to work !
I have tried to add : Hub Information Driver v3
and this : Honeywell TCC Total Connect Comfort Paren

And I can get them working but after a wile the hub will run out of memory I think or start acting up.
Or if I use custom drivers they seem to work for a bit then the device will stop working.

Hub Information should show you the free memory and you can use that to do a controlled reboot, but if you're leaking memory as quickly as it sounds you definitely have an issue. First place to look would be your logs for any error messages that may point you in a direction. Barring that I'd consider disabling any/all apps and/or drivers that utilize http calls - particularly to cloud services; if that corrects your issue then reenable them one by one with some time in between until you find the one that makes your hub go crazy again.

"it just works" is my answer. :slight_smile: I don't do anything special, but I have Hub Info driver running on all 6 of my hubs, and Honeywell TCC running on two, often three of my hubs. I have both versions installed on one hub, one disabled, one active, just to be able to switch during development.

I have 4 hubs in my Production array and the one that says it's got the highest CPU shows these Apps and Drivers use:

Screenshot 2024-02-16 at 8.47.51 AM
Screenshot 2024-02-16 at 8.47.41 AM

Feels like I should be fearing icicles growing. I think 1.5% for devices is kinda high, but then I realize that's the hub that has a RGBW controller that runs 24x7x365 randomly changing colors every 6-12 seconds (randomly). It has no use at all, but by sitting just a couple inches outside of my field of vision it doesn't bother me or anyone else and, I can always glance at it and say "blue" and then anytime later glance again and see it's not blue... hub must be running just fine :smiley:

My point is that: you're right, it's NOT supposed to stop working. You should have a hub that runs for weeks, or months without issue. My hubs all get updated at roughly the rate at which Hubitat releases updates. So 5 days of uptime, a week or so after a major release, is about normal. 30-40 days is also normal when the hot fixes diminish. I have rebooted a hub or two outside of the upgrade schedule, but it's probably been once a year... I do remember having to double boot a hub.. once during upgrade and once 10 mins later when I had a lot of ZWave fall off. That fixed it though.. and that's been a once-in-a-lifetime experience, so far.

Thanks for the reply ..

As far as I know I do not have ANY thing currently that does http calls.
I have a VERY basic system as seen in first post. your HUB info works OK just fine.
Honeywell TCC < works ok when installed ..
But as I add stuff .. the hub become unstable and I start getting weird things happening.
Like : devices stop working .. battery button controls stop working .. dashboard gets slow and or tiles stop working.

Honeywell TCC is one of those "http call" drivers, for example.

Right .. But I do not have it installed currently ..

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Well that rules out the "easy" route. Bad devices can cause the issues you're experiencing also but harder to track down. Are your devices ZWave, Zigbee or a combination thereof?

do you uninstall or just use the handy Disable button for each driver/app?