[RELEASE] OwnTracks for Hubitat Presence Detection

[oldcomputerwiz]

@lpakula

Do you get multiple notifications from any other Hubitat apps on that phone? (IE low battery, etc)

I'm not sure I follow. The notifications I see are on my pushover account that is on my Android device. I'm only seeing single notifications when my android enters and exists regions.

I don't have anything else set up to monitor the status of the iPhone of that's what you are asking.

If you notice, I'm only seeing multiple "left" the region. Not when entering the region. The regions in the screenshot show 3 notifications. She left another location but that only generated 2 notifications.

[lpakula]

@oldcomputerwiz

If you notice, I'm only seeing multiple "left" the region. Not when entering the region. The regions in the screenshot show 3 notifications. She left another location but that only generated 2 notifications.

Ahh ok. I see what you mean. I was wondering if they were all in 3's then if other Hubitat notifications came in 3's as well.

[lpakula]

@jpage4500

What do you think about adding a Hubitat webpage with the user displayed on a map? I did this with the Life360 app. It wasn't pretty but was fairly easy to add at least. Anyway, if you're interested in doing something similar the code is here

For this, does it show all users on a single map? That would be handy for sure if that is the case.

[danabw]

@lpakula

Question about Events in the Device page vs. logs, and the text notification option in the app.

I have this in my logs from a trip tonight. Shows not present (accurately) as I left home at 6:18 pm:

I did not receive a text notification that I had left at that time. I do have notifications set up in the HE Owntracks app.

Also, when I look in my Events on the device page I don't see a not present at 6:18pm.

It looks like the departure isn't getting registered on some level - it's odd how the not present appears in the logs but not in the device Events. Since I didn't get a text notification from the HE Owntracks app when I left at 6:18, seems like the missing entry and device Events and the missing text notification are related?

Anything you'd like me to check?

[kb9gxk]

Thank you. I updated the settings for Location Accuracy to the max 6562 and stale records to 0.5 and now everyone is updating. Just waiting for my friend with her iPhone to restart the app to get updated.

I'll start bringing things down slowly after everyone is constantly reporting properly.

Can't wait to eliminate Life360 once my paid service is done.

[neerav.modi]

@lpakula

@neerav.modi

Somewhere in this 1400+ post thread, someone had mentioned an external website/tool that allowed you to enter coordinates and radius to visualize and tweak our defined Regions.

I don't know if there was one that showed the radius -- poking this in case someone clarifies that it can. Google will just show a pin, but no radius bubble. In the regions section of the app, when you add/edit a region, it will show the pin on the map inlay. Radius should be nice though.

Found something like it in another thread:

Show a Circle around a Life360 Place to see Coverage

Here is a neat way to see the circle you have around a particular location in Life360 places (free mode). It will show you the place and the circle so you can see if it covers the area like you want. All you do is put the lat. followed by a comma then the long. in the first box, select Leaflet maps and in the radius box simply put in the same number you have in the places like this 550ft GPS Visualizer: Calculators: Great Circle Distance Maps, Airport Routes, & Degrees/Minutes/Seconds? [pic1…

[Jani]

Ignore inaccurate locations is default 150 for all.
If that means accuracy then it will not help in all cases. Here's log from the morning.
0.9km from home (yep that is more that 750m), connected still to home SSID, accuracy is under 15m but still phone reports its location 0,9km away from home and owntracks sends the information to Hubitat.

[gavin]

@lpakula

To confirm, on the "members summary" table at the top of the app, 'Gavin' is listed, not greyed out with a line through it?

Correct.

This is the log

[lpakula]

@Jani

Ignore inaccurate locations is default 150 for all.
If that means accuracy then it will not help in all cases. Here's log from the morning.
0.9km from home (yep that is more that 750m), connected still to home SSID, accuracy is under 15m but still phone reports its location 0,9km away from home and owntracks sends the information to Hubitat.

Thanks for checking. The problem is your phone is getting a lat/lon from your ISP that isn't correct (puts that phone at a different location). Currently it's embedded to only use SSID for the first 750m from home. I'll have to put that out to a setting so that you can dial it to something higher than that distance.

[lpakula]

@danabw

It looks like the departure isn't getting registered on some level - it's odd how the not present appears in the logs but not in the device Events. Since I didn't get a text notification from the HE Owntracks app when I left at 6:18, seems like the missing entry and device Events and the missing text notification are related?

Anything you'd like me to check?

Hmmm.. I'll look more, but that one seems to be a Hub issue. The code fires the log entry if there was a change in presence, and then immediately fires the presence event.

[lpakula]

@gavin

Correct.

Let me look into this more. Shouldn't do that if it's enabled. Is that member selected in the "private" box as well?

[Jani]

For me it doesn't matter if it's 100km

[jpage4500]

@lpakula

For this, does it show all users on a single map? That would be handy for sure if that is the case.

That was my original hope.. basically a desktop 'lite' version of OwnTracks (or Life360 which also doesn't have one)

Show all members on a map.. update them as they move around.. that kind of thing. I didn't get that far so I wouldn't be much help on the idea though. Just wanted to throw it out there

[gavin]

@lpakula

Let me look into this more. Shouldn't do that if it's enabled. Is that member selected in the "private" box as well?

No. That section is blank.

[danabw]

@lpakula

The code fires the log entry if there was a change in presence, and then immediately fires the presence event.

Thanks...I forgot to mention, I have a rule setup that triggers on presence change and sets a switch based on home or away - that rule did fire properly on the presence change and the specific change to not present, so the word is getting out, so to speak, even though the not present isn't showing up in the device Events page and the HE Owntracks app isn't sending the message.

[albertsmark]

New OwnTracks Recorder Image Update yesterday.

[danabw]

Just completed the update, and things look normal.

Thaks for the tip.

[lpakula]

@jpage4500

Show all members on a map.. update them as they move around.. that kind of thing. I didn't get that far so I wouldn't be much help on the idea though. Just wanted to throw it out there

Ok, gotcha. If you run the OwnTracks recorder, the next version will allow you to access everyone's live location. Seems to be a catch22 that the mobile Hubitat app won't show this (just a grey screen), but it's fine on a PC or on a browser on the mobile. I suspect some javascript stuff that the app dashboards don't like.

[lpakula]

@gavin

No. That section is blank.

I'll look at that tonight. Thanks for confirming!

[lpakula]

@danabw

so the word is getting out, so to speak, even though the not present isn't showing up in the device Events page and the HE Owntracks app isn't sending the message.

Hmmmm.. might need to nag the HE dev's on that version to see what's up.