Please help with Kwikset 888

Rxich · December 16, 2019, 6:09pm

Oh gosh, sorry. I have too many devices, I was thinking of the new keypad I received in terms of location of firmware info, instead of my lock. I'll check when I get home later for the lock numbers. It's paired to ST, as that is pretty good at listing firmware,
It Says:
MSR:0090-0003-0541
fw:4.71

The raw description of the device appears to contain "ver:4.71"

Rxich · December 17, 2019, 1:14am

Mine is 450248, and as far as the firmware
Here's what mine looks like,
Warning-graphical photo ahead

calcman · December 18, 2019, 7:45pm

House came with an 888, originally paired to an IQ Panel2, no issues. When I switched Hubitat, it excluded and paired up without a problem. Seems to be working without connection issues.

On the Hubitat side of things though, it uses the Default Z-Wave Lock driver, but that doesn't account for the configuration parameters that are special for the lock itself, such as whether to auto-lock and auto-lock timeout, leds and sounds statuses.
Pages 4-8 in the manual: https://www.cd-jackson.com/zwave_device_uploads/864/Install-Guide-and-Manual-888-ENG.pdf
More info: https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/2176

As a new Hubitat user, is there a better driver for this specific device? How can I query and set the specific configuration parameters? What is the starting point for creating a new driver that knows about the specific settings? (is this something the Hubitat folks will build or should I write a driver on my own?)

Thanks!

Rxich · December 29, 2019, 6:45am

get yourself the "basic z-wave tool" driver from one of the forums and you can set the parameters, then change driver back to the lock driver.

calcman · January 9, 2020, 6:30pm

This a reasonable work around. But I would like to actually create a driver that incorporates these parameters into the UI.

Is the Default Z-Wave Lock driver (or similar) available to copy and expand upon?

Rxich · January 10, 2020, 1:51am

Ummmm, you'd have to check on the public hubitat driver github. MostHE drivers are "hidden" although I think this one is out there for modifying

aaiyar · January 10, 2020, 2:03am

It isn't available in Hubitat's GitHub. There are two routes you could take (probably more).

First, I really like @Rxich's suggestion to use Basic Z-Wave tool to set the parameters you want, and then switch back to the Generic Z-wave lock driver.

Second, you could take the SmartThings Generic Z-Wave lock device type handler, port it to Hubitat, and then add what you want from Basic Z-Wave tool to it.

I would find the first route easier, but then, I'm no programmer.

Rxich · January 10, 2020, 2:49am

I think I found it !

github.com

hubitat/HubitatPublic/blob/master/examples/drivers/basicZWaveTool.groovy

/*
	Basic Z-Wave tool

	Copyright 2016, 2017, 2018 Hubitat Inc.  All Rights Reserved
	
	2018-11-28 maxwell
		-add command hints
	2018-11-09 maxwell
		-add association and version reports

	usage:
		-replace existing driver with this driver
		-set your paremeters
		-replace this driver with previous driver
	
	WARNING!
		--Setting device parameters is an advanced feature, randomly poking values to a device
		can lead to unexpected results which may result in needing to perform a factory reset 
		or possibly bricking the device
		--Refer to the device documentation for the correct parameters and values for your specific device

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Rxich · January 10, 2020, 2:50am

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steven2 · July 17, 2020, 7:21pm

Wishes I would of read this before I purchased. Paired but can’t operate it. Can’t retrieve codes. I could of paid only $50.00 to get a dumb keypad lock.

rakeshg · July 17, 2020, 8:19pm

Hmm.. I have a Kwikset 888 and it is paired with Hubitat. I can control is from Hubitat and also change/add/delete codes.

It looks like your lock is not paired "securely" and while it will show up, you will not be able to operate it from Hubitat. It took me a couple of tries to get it to pair properly but it works well. A couple of things that I had to do:

Put in a Z-Wave repeater between the hub and the lock (it was about 30 ft away)
Bring the hub really close to the lock to pair it (it was literally sitting on top of the lock). I got a long ethernet cord and used a USB charger to power the hub.
Give it a little bit of time once the lock shows up in Hubitat. Don't hit "save" right away - I gave it about 2-3 minutes once the lock showed as "paired" in Hubitat.

Once it pairs securely, you should be able to operate it from Hubitat.

JasonJoel · July 17, 2020, 8:20pm

Correct, their lock is not paired correctly/fully.

steven2 · July 17, 2020, 9:24pm

I tried that but it still won’t pair securely.

rakeshg · July 17, 2020, 9:42pm

It took me a while to get it to pair. Not sure what else to tell you - it finally did pair for me and it does work. There is also a thread that talks about switching out the Z-Wave controller in the lock for a Zigbee controller but not sure that is worth it.

https://community.hubitat.com/t/kiwkset-lock-zwave-to-zigbee-conversion/9137/20

steven2 · July 17, 2020, 9:54pm

Third time is a charm. I waited over 10 minutes before saving and it paired securely.

rakeshg · July 17, 2020, 9:56pm

Evilborg · July 17, 2020, 10:15pm

Amazingly my Kwikset 910's with a zwave card has never given me a problem in 5 years I have used them.

jtmpush18 · July 19, 2020, 12:03pm

I think that the reason that the hub has to be close to the lock, and the reason that it takes so long is the same reason. I think this is because there is a lot on data being passed (keys) between the hub and the lock, and it just takes a long time to do that.

cwwilson08 · July 19, 2020, 1:14pm

I know it doesn't help to hear but I also have had no trouble with my kwikset zwave or schlage zwave locks. I believe the issues people have go beyond just the lock. Just my opinion though.

Evilborg · July 19, 2020, 6:10pm

Honestly I think it's bad mesh's that causes locks so many issues. I paired mine the old fashion way that ST always had recommended.. pair the lock next to the hub and after its paired give it a extra 15-30 minutes to firmly link up then put it where you need it at making sure you built your mesh correctly first.

Make sure you have zigbee/zwave repeaters already paired to hub first and the mesh is stable then add the locks because they will depend on those repeaters if to far from the hub.

This has always worked for me.