According to this, a 401 means you need to log out and back in.
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Hi all,
thanks to the Hubitat team for cranking this out so fast! Newbie question now in the spirit of "am I doing this right?" before I go and exclude 25+ Inovelli Red series dimmers and switches off of my C-5 hub, and now on to the C-7 (with the 2.2.3 AND Z-Wave firmware update)....
I excluded one of my Red Series Dimmers (LZW31-SN) off the old hub and on to the new. Immediately after putting hub in inclusion mode and then the dimmer in to inclusion mode, on the Hubitat screen pops up a new window "The device has requested the following security keys. Click OK to grant...." and 3 defaulted with checkmarks, 1 without:
[ ] Security 2 Class 2 - Access Control
[ X ] Security 2 Class 1 - Auth.
[ X ] Security 2 Class 0 - Unauth.
[ X ] Security 0 - Unauth.
I left them as-is, as it warns not to change unless deep knowledge of Z-Wave security classes (which I do not possess!). I was expecting the next screen to have me input the 5-digit DSK. It did not. It resets the inclusion timeout back to 60 seconds and then the dimmer pops up. It Initializes and then it's done.
Related/unrelated, Last week I added about 40 Ring Alarm devices to it's hub, and every time it asked me for the 5-digit DSK before it finished adding each sensor to the Ring hub. So I was assuming the same security process would this was for the dimmers/switches. Did I do something wrong ? Should I have checked that S2 C2 - Access Control chekbox?
Meanwhile, going in to the device now, there isn't anywhere in the Current States section or Device Details "Data" section that jumps out at me that the dimmer is connected to the hub with S2 security. How can we tell if we've done this all correct?
EDIT: I have the latest Inovelli device driver code from 8/12 loaded and pointing to it in the device page, and the firmware on the dimmer itself is v1.35 (think everything after has still been considered "beta" so haven't upgraded them).
Help please and thanks!
Brian
You probably won't get them connected with S2.. These devices were failing S2 bootstrapping .. Even when tested against the Z-Wave reference platform.
Is anyone else having troubles with the Inovelli Red Series On/Off Switches? My Red Dimmers seem to pair just fine and don't lock up on initialization, but my switch is having some troubles. Thanks!
Could you elaborate? and are you using the built-in driver or one of the community drivers?
The dimmers don't get stuck on initializing, but for the switch I had to use the workaround procedure to get it to show up under devices. I am using the built-in driver to pair.
Which work around procedure?
The one in the thread about the C-7 inclusion problems on inovelli red dimmers. (Shutdown hub- unplug-replug-rediscover) Funny thing is though, S-2 did authenticate on the switch but not the dimmers.
Ok... The only time I have seen this happen, post firmware update, is when there were still a bunch of failed devices in the list. Did you clean up you failed nodes?
Under settings and z-wave details.. You will see nodes that have no information.. If you refresh the node it should time-out and fail the node within a few minutes, if it wasn’t failed already.. Then you can click remove and it will remove the reference to it on the network.
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Yes I did clean them up. I may try resetting the zwave radio tonight and starting from scratch, I'm only 3 dimmers and one switch in. Or do you think trying to get S2 authenticated on everything is pointless at this point?
Yes.. it is pointless as some devices are failing against the Z-Wave reference platform.. Which at that point is the gold standard of z-wave compliance.. If it fails S2 on that then there is nothing that we can do about that.. What we are doing now is gracefully handling that failure rather than letting the nodes get locked in discovery.
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Has anyone running 2.2.3 gotten SmartStart working? I'm not having any luck.
Here's what I did:
- Upgraded to 2.2.3 and upgraded Z-Wave chipset
- Excluded all Z-wave bulbs
- Reset Z-Wave Radio
- Removed the rest of the Z-Wave devices
- Factory reset each of my 32 Inovelli LZW30-SN, LZW31-SN, and LZW36 switches
- Scanned in the DSKs for the first two LZW31-SN switches into SmartStart using my Android phone
- Waited 20 minutes.
What I expected is that both of the switches would be included with the names and rooms I assigned to them in SmartStart. This is not what has happened. SmartStart still lists the two switches as "not included, pending".
On the Z-Wave Details screen I have the hub (001) and one other device (006). 006 is showing the "Discover" button, status "OK", security "None", and no clusters. Just like the inclusion bug in 2.2.2 would look before clicking "Discover".
When I click "Discover", the page refreshes without any change, I get the "Discover" button back again. Same clicking on the 006's "Refresh" button. I tried each several times.
Next I tried a warm reboot on the hub. After the reboot, I could now see a "Route" column on the Z-Wave Details page, and it showed a route from 001<->006 at 100k. Clicking "Discover" then "Refresh" for 006 then finally made the clusters and device name ("Inovelli Z-Wave Smart Scene Dimmer S2") appear. However, upon examining the device, it did not pick up the device label I entered into SmartSmart, and the Z-Wave security is listed as "None", even though I told SmartStart to keep all 3 of the 4 security grants it offered, including both of the pre-checked S2 options.
Even after all of that, SmartStart on my phone still says "not included, pending" for both switches. And I still haven't seen the second switch I scanned in (same room as the hub, previously connected at 100k before radio reset). The good news is that I never had to triple-tap the switch to put it into inclusion mode, at least that part worked for the first switch.
Anyone had more luck?
Some of the devices on your list are failing S2 bootstrapping even when tested on the Z-Wave reference platform.. Those devices will not smart start
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My Zooz Zen25 double plug is not being fully recognized during the inclusion process, even after updating the hub and radio firmware to the latest version. The inclusion process completes, but it is being added as a generic "device" in the device list, preventing me from each individual plug in the device list.
I initially tried including the device with default authentication that is checked (security 2 class 0). Other things I've tried:
- Used other authentication methods, including no authentication
- Manually changed the device to be the the zooz double plug in device settings. (Still couldn't see the two separate plugs in the device list)
- Exclude the plug, factory reset the plug, reset the z-wave radio
During the inclusion process, I see the following in the log (this is with the default "security 2 class 0" checked)
dev:972020-08-13 08:00:16.401 pm infofingerprint mfr:"027A", prod:"A000", deviceId:"A003", inClusters:"0x5E,0x6C,0x55,0x9F"
dev:972020-08-13 08:00:16.379 pm debugbuilding fingerprint for unknown Z-Wave device...
sys:12020-08-13 08:00:15.456 pm warnZ-Wave Inclusion timed out, status:7
sys:12020-08-13 08:00:15.443 pm infoZ-Wave Discovery Stopped
dev:972020-08-13 08:00:14.177 pm debugconfigure() called...
sys:12020-08-13 08:00:00.117 pm warnZ-Wave Network responded with Busy message.
sys:12020-08-13 07:59:50.889 pm infoZ-Wave Discovery Running
Is anyone seeing this issue or have any other suggestions of what to try?
Thank you once again. For anyone following along I have raised this issue over here:
Same w/me on the Zooz - always adds as a genrice "Device." I can change the driver to the stock Zooz Double Plug driver and reconfig, etc., to get the child devices created, etc. However, it won't control reliably (parent or children) from the Device pages - freezes for a while and then executes five or more commands in a second.
I have big errors on the Zooz here with big errors in the logs related to the Zooz double plug.
It's just a mess...I've added and exluded and added again, and it won't work. This is not only a 2.2.3 issue, as I had problems w/it on 2.2.2 as well...
@bcopeland, any suggestions other that exclude/pair again?
A question to the Community, (ok, some context first) most of the Aeotec z-wave devices have 2 Inclusion modes, non-secure and secure. These are usually triggered by either pressing the device button once for a non-secure inclusion or twice for a secure inclusion.
So the question is; does it matter which inclusion mode you trigger on the device? Will a single press still allow my HE to include securely if I forget to press the button twice?
PS, I don't have my HE C7 yet, it's stuck in the Aus Post network still.
