Leviton WiFi device support?


#23

A bigger problem to me than speed with the cloud, is security. I don't trust anybody, even AWS, to be able to prevent hacking...color me paranoid maybe? In any case, my hope is that regular consumers at some point will realize the security risk and prefer a local home automation solution.

IMHO the biggest issue with Hubitat and mainstream acceptance is that at least for me so far, you have to kind of be a tinkerer to make it work. If they can eventually get over that hump, I don't see why the hub wouldn't be extremely popular.


#24

I would love some more information on how to do this.

Thank you!


#25

Do you really think that random hackers are going to break into your system to control your lights? Or, even to open your locks? No, of course not. There's no money in doing that because they aren't even on the same continent. They're looking for banking info and credit card numbers. If someone wanted to break into my house, all they would have to do it break in a window or my sliding glass door. Now, the alarm would go off, but in reality, if someone wanted to get in they could. The whole point of security is deterrence. It's easier to break into someone else's house without a security system than into one that does, that's why security systems work. It's not that they're fool-proof. It's that there are so many homes without one.
The same with your cloud based home automation. There is no reason to break into a home automation cloud system because there's not enough money to be made from it. Let's not forget, that while they are criminals, hackers are doing it for a reason and not just for the hell of it (most of the time). And most "hacking" is not breaking in by busting codes, its stealing info folks give away unknowingly.

And as far as "end of the dirt road"...i'm sorry, but if my home is going to rely on something to work at all, it better be 100% of the time or damn close to it. The last month I was on ST I lost internet on a Sunday afternoon and I literally said to myself, "well, I don't really need to leave the house. I don't want to have to go around and do all that sh&t by hand." Now, while I am a lazy bastard, some of that really is because once you have it set up to be automated, you expect it to be. And when it's down, it sucks. I agree that the cloud will be the future but for me, only after it is a hell of a lot more reliable than ST was and only when my internet connection is a lot more reliable than "Slime Porner" or "Speculum" are.


#26

Yes, actually. There’s plenty of evidence that if hackers can easily get in, they will, even if only to mess with you.

Now the key thing to note is that you aren’t magically more secure just because your hub is local. If you can access your system remotely, you have an attack vector. This includes cloud systems but also local systems exposed remotely. Of course you may have attack vectors you are not even be aware of as in this thread where (among other potential vectors), some people had unintentionally accessible network shares.


#27

It might not even be about control. Maybe it's just monitoring. Once "they" get your leaving and arriving patterns along with any key pad entries, then your house is theirs. To a burglar, money is indeed a motive. To a miscreant, well who knows.


#28

I don’t actually think that smart home monitoring is a particularly meaningful vector for burglary, at least not at present. The people willing to break into your house to steal your TV are generally not the sort of people able to hack into your automation system, whether it’s in the cloud or not.

For the most part, the people who would hack into your home automation system are just going to screw around with it because they find it amusing. However, some might use it as a vector to extort money with ransomware if they can leap from your home automation system to your computers. Similarly they might blackmail with security footage if they capture anything compromising.

Physical break-ins are generally not going to involve automation compromises, though. That’s just not very realistic right now. Just as it’s not realistic that checking in on Twitter/Foursquare/whatever makes you more likely to get burglarized. Burglaries just aren’t targeted like that for normal people. If you have actual enemies, then sure, but that’s not the case for typical people.


#29

Ooops! I apologize. For some reason, I was under the impression that within the Alexa App you could use the state of a switch device as a trigger for an Alexa Routine. This is not possible currently.

Sorry for any confusion!

You can do this within IFTTT. Use a Hubitat Virtual Switch as a trigger to change the state of your Leviton WiFi switch (assuming Leviton has support for IFTTT!)

Probably the best solution is to simply replace any WiFi switches you have with corresponding Z-Wave Plus or ZigBee switches. This way all communications will be local with no internet or cloud server dependencies.


#30

Not switches, but you can use contact sensors.

But, I agree, swap to z-wave or zigbee and you'll save yourself a lot of headache.


#31

Unfortunately, not yet on Hubitat... :frowning:


#32

That makes me a sad panda. :cry:
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#33

These switches are in my shop. It is to far away from the z-wave network of the house.