Zigbee 3.0 button controller $8.88 USD at home Depot, includes cct bulb

Thank you for that information. His position makes sense - if you're limited on developer resources, you have to pick and choose your priorities, and sane devices with lots of demand make sense to prioritize.

That said, it's a shame the answer wasn't "we'll add inbound group messaging (a core feature), but will leave it to the community to write the drivers".

Are we sure that the remote is using zigbee group messaging? Group messaging and touchlink are not the same thing. If the remote is Zigbee 3.0, it supports more than TouchLink to be sure.

Why would that matter? Also, the Symfondsk remote must be paired to the hub to control speaker volume. You can't pair it directly to the speaker.

The Tradfri Dimmer and Symfondsk remotes works with Hubitat.

It looks like support has been added to Home Assistant: https://github.com/dmulcahey/zha-device-handlers/blob/dev/zhaquirks/lds/ and Support for LDS ZBT-CCTSwitch-D0001 · Issue #209 · dmulcahey/zha-device-handlers · GitHub

They are adding the coordinator to the group of the remote. Until we can do this with Hubutat we are probably out of luck.

Looks like Home Depot is moving them out... Now $4.88

This type of remote is seemly becoming more and more popular...and with IKEA now a board member of the Zigbee Alliance. I think this is only going to expand.

At a bare minimum you get another remote to reset ZLL bulbs with at least, right?

I do have to say, after getting mine, the whole one button dimming thing is REALLY annoying. I'll probably never use the remote at all, unless the buttons can be re-mapped. If I want a bulb dimmer, I don't want to have to make it go to max brightness first. I want it to dim from the current level. I can understand one button for Color Temp but they should have taken the preset button and made it the dim button. Or why not simply made the top button on and brighter, the bottom button off and dimmer and the middle two buttons adjust color temp? super strange way to set up a remote.

This is super annoying too. This wouldn't be a problem if there was a dedicated on and off button like, oh, every other remote I've ever seen! Super strange.

Has anyone else noticed that the bulb has an odd behavior at lower levels too? If you have the bulb at the lowest level and turn it off, when you turn it back on, it will come on to much brighter, then dim down to the lowest level. The LEDs in this thing must be super cheap. I've never seen a bulb do that. Usually the lowest level is just the lowest level the LEDs will come on successfully. What do you expect for $4.99 though. Hue, this bulb ain't, I can tell you that.

I went back and got them to price adjust and picked up a few more. The bulbs are a good deal.

I think the Hubitat is filltering broadcast messages. Broadcast packets in parse?

The Home Assistant Zigbee implementation can use the same USB stick as was used on the C-4 so the hardware should support passing the messages.

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as far as broadcast packets, is it possible that this remote being Zigbee 3.0 might have hope of being parsed?
I think the guys at Hass.io got remote working

In case anyone is curious like I was above, both the bulb and the remote can pair to a Hue Bridge network. The bulb is easy to pair--just reset (6 times on/off), and Hue found it.

The remote is probably Touch Link only (I reset it, then held the power and dim buttons as specified when putting the Bridge in Touch Link mode). Like non-Hue and non-Friends devices, these won't show up in the Hue app, but you can Touch Link then to a bulb (or few) for direct manipulation. Unfortunately, that information doesn't seem to make it back to the Hue Bridge, but the power, dim, and CT buttons all worked for me. The presets (scene?) button didn't work for me--I tried to save a few but it always kept cycling between whatever its defaults must be.

I haven't tried either on Hubitat but see lots of people have above. Given that they work on Hue, I'd probably keep the bulbs there if you have one and don't have a dedicated hub. But it would definitely be nice if the remote could function as a generic button device on Hubitat and free us from the manufacturer's awkward choices (you may notice that there is only one dim button; it cycles down and back around, so good luck getting to 100 without guessing when to stop).

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It stops itself at max bright and min bright. It doesn't wrap around. It only goes in one direction. Same is true for the color temp button.

That is the only part of the remote that is great actually. Makes it easier than using a pico directly paired to Hubitat. Hold down a pico using startDimmerChange and you'll blow right past lowest dim level and turn the light off. Happens to me almost every time.

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Interesting, I guess I got impatient and pressed the button multiple times so it may have appeared to wrap around. :slight_smile:

The startLevelChange thing depends on the device/driver. With Hue Bridge bulbs, it stops at 1%. With directly paired Sengleds, I noticed the same issue as you. Not sure about most others.

Picked up a bunch of these today. Looks like I’ll have a pile of remotes until someone can come up with a way to repurpose these like Pico remotes.

I don't think it's a Zigbee 3.0 related issue. It's the way the Zigbee network stack is configured on Hubitat. We will have to convince Hubitat to make the change.

Given how many of these remotes I have, I'm super-eager to figure something out. I wonder if there's another option using a zigbee USB dongle and a rPi running a proxy/repeater (over wifi) to Hubitat - kind of like the Pico remote enthusiasts are doing with the Lutron Caseta Pro hub.

Anybody who knows more about that have any thoughts or pointers in that direction?

I feel like the weirdness in the button behaviors could probably be worked around by entirely remapping what the remote is sending to what you want to happen... if I could just get button press messages at all.

EDIT: Looks like this is the Home Assistant device handler: Add LDS ZBT-CCTSwitch-D0001 device. by Adminiuga · Pull Request #211 · dmulcahey/zha-device-handlers · GitHub - and Home Assistant certainly runs on an rPi. Looks like I might be re-trying Home Assistant with a less broken Zigbee module than last time - if only to proxy these remotes.

@mbafford This video may help you. IKEA remote Node-red

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The other option might be Zigbee2MQTT once it has a driver. I don't think there is one yet but it supports the Ikea remotes that work similar so it's probably possible to write a driver. Then you could use @kevin MQTT application.

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By the way anyone using npm FYI. ⚠️ Update npm to v6.13.4 - News - Node-RED Forum

Just so nobody freaks out like I did.....

The npm, Inc. security team has been scanning the registry for examples of this attack, and have not found any published packages in the registry with this exploit. That does not guarantee that it hasn’t been used, but it does mean that it isn’t currently being used in published packages on the registry.

Not saying you shouldn't update...but don't loose your shizzle.

I paired the bulb to ST, to make sure that it doesn't screw up my Zigbee mesh in Hubitat....look what the zigbeeNodeType is called in ST for the bulb:

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Does this mean that it's not acting as a router in ST? I don't quite understand the whole clusters and binding thing so I just thought I would double check. I don't have an extra xbee to hook up to my ST network to check it out.

I've got no expertise here but took this apart in case anyone wants to see the chips.

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