Zen16 v2 garage door

Again, I implore you to forget all about the app right now - pretend it doesn't exist.

Just worry about getting the Z16 working -- you don't need the app for that. You can do all the setup verification testing you need to do from the Parent/Child devices in HE once you have the Z16 all wired up.

When you have confirmed that the relay and sensor work as they should in testing, then go set up that app -- that'll take under a minute once you have the Z16 working.

I fully aware of the issue right now. Just trying to get a contact sensor working.

not really a big fan of this garage door app. probably have to end up making my own. the contact sensor in the zen16 advanced settings is not posting as a contact sensor. I could care less if the type is a contact sensor. I just need to know the switch is closed.

The app works great and is incredibly reliable - it's been around since the early days of SmartThings and is well-proven by many users over the years.

I myself have been using it for over 5 years between my Z16v1, then Z17, and now Z16v2.

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so just to summarize what I have learned

  1. the garage door app requires a type "contact sensor" to work.
  2. the zen16v2 out of the box does not have "contact sensor" and input
  3. the zen16 advanced driver must be downloaded and installed to add type "contact sensor".
  4. after selecting input in zen16 switch 2 as "contact sensor" is still does not show up in the garage door app.

I understand if you want to install multiple devices to use with the garage door app. I personally do not. I have had that in past and now want to use a single device with no batteries and reed switch.

The garage door app works great.

After changing the Input type to contact sensor did you run the "Child Cleanup" option at the bottom of the driver settings? Or are you getting any warnings in the logs about the child devices?

Please post a screenshot of your settings and also a screenshot of the device page with the parent expanded. As you can see I have a contact sensor device as one of the sensor inputs.

Example Only of screenshots I want to see:
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@hydro311 I think there may need to be a guide on how to configure a Z16/17 to use with a GD and a wired sensor?

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yes. tried all options from config. to child updates. remove garage app and reload. the contact sensor in the zen16 does not match whatever type the developer is looking for in the GD app.

I could not find any example of someone getting this working. all used external sensor for GD app or they ended up just making there own rule...part of the frustration with 3rd party stuff - so much time is spent on trying to get it to work with non standard scenarios most of time just better off writing our own rule.

@jtp10181 @hydro311 you guys are very patient LOL.

@user7116 I bet you cant find any examples of someone NOT getting it working either. Start over (deep breath) and read ALL the instructions given in this thread

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appreciate your help, I am a programmer by job and have had zwave for years with vera and it was so much more advanced. I have asked a few questions on here and none have ever been answered. most of the replies I get are relax... take a deep breath, well figure it out. always interesting to me that these things just don't work out of box. I think so far on a simple garage door now is 4 hours in and no examples and no results. this I had working in vera years ago in 5 minutes.

Out of what "box" ?, its an app thats not built by Hubitat. I am just happy that it exists. I dont have hardwired door switches on my 3 garage door setup because I use zwave tilt sensors so I cant help you in that regard.

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understood. which is my original question. if you are not using tilt sensor and the zen16 how can I get this to work because it does not out of the box.

As the driver notes say in each "Input Type for Sw #" field, you'll need to power cycle the Z16 after changing those to Contact Sensor (or any other non-default setting).

On my 16v2, I use S1 for a reed sensor that confirms GD Closed, S2 is a reed that confirms GD fully Open, and since my garage is detached, S3 is a reed that monitors my garage service door. You only need one reed sensor for everything to work, but I like being able to confirm both garage door positions.

My GD Opener (GDO) is tied to R3. I use R1 and R2 to control a unique lighting setup I have in my garage (unrelated to the GDO). So I'm using all 3 Rs and all 3 Ss.

Here's a sketch of my wiring...

Summary

Here's my driver setup... Since I use my S1 - GD Closed reed sensor as my contact sensor in the Zooz Garage Door app, I highlighted the S1 setup options -- you should be using those same options for your reed sensor.

I also indicated a few other things to confirm in the driver... Like the very first option -- I highly recommend using the "All relays Off" option there to prevent door opening after a power loss/restore. My setting's unique due to how I'm using the other relays, but note that I still have my opener relay (R3) set to "Off" there.

Toward the bottom, I indicated a setting in Red --it's the "Child Cleanup" one Jeff alluded to above. You should check that box. Mine's unchecked since I'm using all 3 Rs and all 3 Ss, but most people don't use all of them. Turning that option "On" will help keep the driver cleaner to work with.

Summary

Finally, here's a shot of my Zooz Garage Door App setup for reference. Everything works like a champ.

Summary

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You did not show the devices from the devices list as requested. I need to see if the child device was created correctly (which it probably is not).

I will follow up with a full example.

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If you are only connecting to ONE GD and one sensor, then you could possibly just use SW2 for the sensor if you wanted. In this example I am showing how to use the R1 and SW1 for the same GD. None of the other R/SW are configured, just left at defaults.

#1 is just recommended, so if power is removed/restore from Z16 there is no chance it opens your garage door. #2 and #12 are the important ones. All other settings are defaults.

You could also use the last option in the Input type which is made specifically for garage doors. I think this will just make the relay be a momentary switch (like pushing a GD button), otherwise the Zooz GD app does this already so I do not think it is required.

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Once that is saved and Synced, power cycle the Z16 if you have changed any of the input settings, then turn on the Clean Up Child Sensors at the bottom and save again.

Now, you can check your devices list. You should have 3 Relay childs and One Sensor child that has the Contact driver on it.

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With that sensor child there, you can select it in the Zooz GD App.

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WOW anyone that finds this thread wont need a spoon because they will be well fed! :wink:

Amazing instructions @jtp10181 @hydro311

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