Yes - I work in cross platform in two locations - ST/Z-wave, WF (Kasa/tapo) C-8/z-wave, WF(kasa/tapo, zigbee). Goal to have Dashboards in C-8, Sharptools and Homekit. C-8 with the homekit integration allows Homekit control.
Matter allows for devices to controlled directly across platforms - But - It is not always easy in early days.
strong text C-8 with the homekit integration allows Homekit control.strong text
Does one NEED C8 to get good HomeKit control? I was planning on waiting to go to C8 when I move to a new house, but that may be while yet. I can upgrade easily, so, if HomeKit works better or has a more aesthetically pleasing dash under C8, please let me know. Thank you.
Whether using Hubitatās built in HomeKit integration, or going through Homebridge, the experience shouldnāt depend at all on different hardware revisions of each hub (all other things being equal).
Please be aware, that all HomeKit integrations (built-in or via HomeBridge) allows Apple HomeKit to monitor and control most Hubitat hub devices. (Note: Please read Hubitatās HomeKit integration documentation to see the restrictions)
Hubitat cannot directly control any HomeKit-only devices. The workaround for this is to expose Hubitat virtual devices to HomeKit, and then to creat HomeKit automations that synchronize the virtual devices with native HomeKit devices.
I have a C7 and use HomeBridge to control all of my Hubitat devices from the Apple Home app. I don't like Google Home and don't like Hubitat Dashboards on my phone. Maybe some day they will beef up the capabilities of the Hubitat mobile app to be on par with the UI for Apple or Google Home.
Is this through Hubitat HomeKit ? I donāt see my locks
You will... soon*er or later 
Be sure to set this category to "Watching" so you know when you'll see them
UPDATE:
....and now you'll see them
the release notes don't say anything about Matter. Is matter only via Homekit at the moment?
HomeKit and Matter are two completely different things. To clarify, the HomeKit integration permits Hubitat-paired devices to be made available to Apple HomeKit. It doesn't work the other way around.
@danabw @bobbyD , Me too, nice update overall - things are looking a bit slicker.
Looks like homebridge for me is on the way out, less moving parts should = more reliability.
Well done team, great work !!
Yeap, because nothing for Matter support has been added yet.
Iām not sure I follow what heās saying.
No oneās ātalking about itā from the general consumerās perspective, so it is going to follow through on all the hype?
Or itās not going to?
Matterās invisibility is partly by design: thanks to cross-brand compatibility with the spec, everything is supposed to just work.
Yep, no shockers there.
Using a travel analogy... Consumers were led to believe that Matter would be some kind of all-inclusive "open boarders" passport among the various manufacturers, but unsurprising to those of us who've been in this game for a while, all the big players will still require a special ($$) visa to enjoy the real benefits of being inside their realm.
Matter was indeed a very cunning way for the big players to collaboratively generate buzz and interest to that wider audience who haven't gotten into smart home stuff yet. And for those folks, maybe the limited interoperability will be good enough for their initially-simple needs.
In the end, Matter isn't going to move the needle very much. Perhaps a little, but not nearly on the scale those early rosy promises would lead you to believe.
Unfortunately the reverse might be true for a good long while (moving the smart home adoption needle down). The push for Matter since late 2019 has given consumers the utopian idea that Matter is the holy-grail of smart home, and that without it, a true smart home doesn't exist. Well, it's almost 2024 and Matter is still not what they promised back then, so consumers are tired of waiting and tired of broken promises. Will take years and an equal amount of effort to regain the trust and interest of the same consumers who initially embarked on the Matter bandwagon back in 2019.
"...the project is currently on track to see first devices through certification in late 2021, depending on manufacturer go-to-market plans. Devices targeted for launch include lighting and electrical (e.g., light bulbs, luminaires, controls, plugs, outlets), HVAC controls (e.g., thermostats, AC units), access controls (e.g., door locks, garage doors), safety and security (e.g., sensors, detectors, security systems), window coverings/shades, TVs, access points, bridges and others." - Connectivity Standards Alliance Unveils Matter , published May 11, 2021.
All good points... I think Matter can and likely will effectively lower the barrier of entry for folks totally new to smarthome.
That's not a bad thing -- it's more money in the manu's pockets, and most of those new folks will probably be content with the basic/"minimum" interoperability Matter will provide. More people adopting smarthome stuff will drive more products & innovation, and that tide lifts our boats too.
But as robust smarthome users, we're all already well past most (if not all) those initial barriers Matter will help knock down for newbs.
For instance, I'll be interested to see if (one day) HE and Hue can more efficiently connect via Matter, but I'm not holding my breath. Perhaps that's not even a good example (I have no idea), but you get what I mean.
What is more likely from the way I understand it is, could be similar to how we have a bunch of Geneirc Zwave drivers that give basic support for different device types. Matter over Wifi/IP would allow a Generic Matter Plug driver for example, to (in theory) control any plug/outlet that follows the matter standards. Similar to how all Zwave certified devices follow the same set of rules for communication. Possibly the hub would have a new device type for Matter which does discovery via the LAN to make it easy to add new devices (similar to Zwave discovery on Zwave Network).
Further I think once the device is joined to the local Matter network, supposedly any other matter hub can then find and communicate directly with that device. I assume the device would send out global status updated for all hubs to pick up.
Matter over thread would be different story, since HE does not have any near plans to support a Thread radio. But I am sure there will be ways to get a separate Thread hub (Hue maybe?) to talk to HE via a local API.
I got my first Matter device this week. It was a smart color LED bulb that Amazon threw in as a freebee with a new Echo I ordered. Here are my impressions in the order they happened:
So that's it. I'm done with this bulb. It was a curiosity, but I'll give it to a friend who only wants to control 2 or 3 bulbs from his Alexa. Probably done with Matter too. I'm sure different vendors will improve the integration process over time. But now that I have first-hand experience with how the architecture works, I can see that it violates my own beliefs about good software architecture. (Single source of truth, Don't Repeat Yourself, assume all networks can and will partition when you don't want them to so don't introduce those links unnecessarily, etc) I'll stick to my linear architecture, confined within my own network. I know I can find and fix problems in it when they happen.
It doesn't need to preprogram your wifi creds. Instead it sends the new device id to your existing devices and saying "it's okay to share creds with this device."
It's called "Amazon Frustration-Free Setup." See the FAQ for more information.
Mostly secure in theory, but I am not really a fan.
Download the Hubitat app
