Support for Bond hub

It's usually offered in Preferences on the Device page. I haven't used the integration for a while so I've forgotten...maybe check the Bond app in the Apps tab if it has a debug setting.

Even if you can't find a debug logging option, If you do tap the startPositionChange and stopPositionChange buttons what shows up in the logs?

I found it in the app settings and it was already enabled. Here is what I get with those 2 commands:

I wonder if I should try the other Bond integration app....

I uninstalled Dominick's Bond Home Integration app and installed the HE built in app. It appears that componentStopPositionChange is not supported?

Must be that the device just can't do that? They went through the trouble of implementing this command, required by the Hubitat capability, instead of letting it throw an error, so that (plus the complete absence in the custom driver), suggests that to me.

Dominick's Bond app has a "stop" command that works just fine from the device page. Rule Machine and Advanced Button Control seem to issue the StopPositionChange command in their automations which is also a problem.

The HE built in app doesn't have the stop command in the device page. Any chance that command can get added? If not, it would be nice if Rule Machine used the stop command rather than StopPositionChange.

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You could try using a custom action in Rule Machine, with Dominick's Bond integration.

Like below. Choose Custom Action and actuator, choose your shade, and see what custom actions are available. If there's a stop in the list that could do it.

You can see the HE virtual shade doesn't have stop as an option. Maybe it will show up in the options for your shade.

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FWIW, there should be no issue running both Bond integrations (official and Dominick's) -- I was doing that for a while until the official app reached the parity I needed (I just have a very basic fan+light to manage).

I think Dominick's app is still more comprehensive at this point, but he's unfortunately left the platform so that app's not actively supported (AFAIK).

I think @bcopeland still has plans to enhance the official app, so hopefully that will happen. Otherwise, perhaps another community developer will be willing to take over Dominick's version in the future.

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I still run both. I use the built in integration for my fan + light and it works well. I use the community integration for my shades. I had to modify the driver for the community version to add the opennext and closenext capability I wanted. I asked if it could be added to the official integration but they never responded to the request, so I assume they are not interested.

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A few of us have requested this addition to the built-in app here but there's been no update so far... As you noted, the community version does work so I've just remained on that for now.

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An update to the HE Bond integration is coming from what HE staff have said, but it requires a re-write of enough code that it's been delayed. I'm hoping we'll see it in 2,3.4 in a few months, but HE staff have a lot of balls in the air and limited staff so we'll see what they can manage. If we don't get everything desired in the first update, hopefully the new code-base will make future updates easier. :slight_smile:

Running both in the meantime to take advantage of their capabilities is a good approach, as noted.

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That was an interesting idea and I appreciate the detail you provided. I'm still trying to dig in and learn Rule Machine so having the screenshots was helpful.

Unfortunately "stop" isn't a option, only stopPositionChange. I think I may try adding a contact sensor in the location I typically stop my shade and see if I can get that to work until they are able to add this capability natively in the app. Definitely not ideal but I think it could work.

I've added my vote, thanks for the info!

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There is a lot of stuff kinda "hidden" in RM that can be very useful. Still waters run deep. :wink:

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Sorry if this has been asked before but I searched and couldn't find it. Can the community bond integration support multiple bridges? I know the Hubitat version can but it doesn't support the stop button with shades so not useful to me. Thanks.

You just need to run two applications, one per bridge.

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@minollo Thanks for the help. I installed through the package manager. Do I just try to install it again? I don't want to screw up my current bridge so wanted to double check before doing anything. Thanks

Never used package manager... if the application code is in your hub now - which I expect it is from what I can guess package manager does, you just need to create one more instance of the same app in the Apps page (Add User App).

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@minollo Thanks, I was able to add it as a second application. Apparently it doesn't allow you to rename the app so it appears exactly the same as the first instance which is a little confusing. So I included a bridge identifier in the name of the devices on the second bridge to make it easy to differentiate within Hubitat. Thanks again.

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Sorry to bump an old post, but I was wondering if there has been any progress on this issue or anyone has any new ideas on how to get around it. I just installed a 6 speed fan with Bond and it's only showing up in HE as 5 speed

Dominic is no longer active in the community here, and so this (his) community Bond app is no longer supported.

Even if you were to modify the driver to accept 6 speeds, the App is going to need to translate it to the 5 speeds that HE supports and back:

Bond To HE:

	[
		10: [10: "high", 9: "high", 8: "medium-high", 7: "medium-high", 6: "medium", 5: "medium", 4: "medium-low", 3: "medium-low", 2: 1, 1: "low"],
		9: [9: "high", 8: "medium-high", 7: "medium-high", 6: "medium", 5: "medium", 4: "medium-low", 3: "medium-low", 2: "low", 1: "low"],
		8: [8: "high", 7: "medium-high", 6: "medium-high", 5: "medium", 4: "medium", 3: "medium-low", 2: "medium-low", 1: "low"],
		7: [7: "high", 6: "medium-high", 5: "medium", 4: "medium", 3: "medium-low", 2: "medium-low", 1: "low"],
		6: [6: "high", 5: "medium-high", 4: "medium", 3: "medium", 2: "medium-low", 1: "low"],
		5: [5: "high", 4: "medium-high", 3: "medium", 2: "medium-low", 1: "low"],
		4: [4: "high", 3: "medium", 2: "medium-low", 1: "low"],
		3: [3: "high", 2: "medium", 1: "low"],
		2: [2: "high", 1: "low" ]
	]

HE to Bond

	[
		10: ["high": 10, "medium-high": 8, "medium": 5, "medium-low": 3, "low": 1],
		9: ["high": 9, "medium-high": 7, ":medium": 5, "medium-low": 3, "low": 1],
		8: ["high": 8, "medium-high": 6, "medium": 4, "medium-low": 3, "low": 1],
		7: ["high": 7, "medium-high": 6, "medium": 4, "medium-low": 3, "low": 1 ],
		6: ["high": 6, "medium-high": 5, "medium": 3, "medium-low": 2, "low": 1],
		5: ["high": 5, "medium-high": 4, "medium": 3, "medium-low": 2, "low": 1],
		4: ["high": 4, "medium": 3, "medium-low": 2, "low": 1],
		3: ["high": 3, "medium": 2, "low": 1],
		2: ["high": 2, "low": 1]
	]