Can anyone recommend a smart espresso maker (and other coffee drinks) that can work with Hubitat? Is there one?
Considering if you drink a couple double-shots every day it adds up to well over a $1000 in a single year..."cheap" is not really a consideration.
The only integration I found already existing for Hubitat is here:
But, if someone is willing to work on drivers you would likely be able to integrate a different type. I often offer to help make a driver (if people are willing to provide the information and be guinea pigs for code I cannot test myself) for example.
THANKS! A great starting point!
just great, I woke to make my coffee but a borked firmware update, prevented me from having coffee...is not anything I ever want to have to say.
Have got to ask... what is to be gained by "automating" an espresso maker?
If you're not adverse to spending $$$ on a good coffee machine, consider the Jura machines.
I have a Z10 at home and a J9 at our summer house. They are not cheap, but in my experience they last a long time if they are maintained and make excellent coffee drinks. I have a Jura Capresso C1000 that's over 20 years old and still works great (it now serves as a backup machine).
The Z10 has an optional wifi module, but I can't fathom any reason why I would want to control it remotely. I still have to take a cup out of the cabinet, maybe fill up the water or bean container, etc. so it seems like a pointless gimmick. Our Breville toaster oven has wifi and I find that totally useless as well. And I like to automate things, but I can't see the point when it comes to appliances.
Nevertheless, you might be able to hack the API for the Z10 if you were so inclined (if it hasn't already been done).
HA has a couple of different Jura integrations. That’s about the extent of my knowledge, but you could either attempt to port to HA or bring the HA devices/entities/whatevers into HE.
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Not to get too far out into the weeds, but I’ve long considered that my next big projects will be to automate ‘Good Morning/Night’ routines, and I can see the espresso machine as a part of that. Sure, my current radio-less Jura only takes a handful of seconds to start up, but why not?
If I'm going to spend 1500 bucks or so on any appliance these days, it should be smart.
I recently researched and purchased a "manual" espresso machine to make espresso /steamed milk drinks and got the impression that the fully automated systems are pretty fast at heating up. So at the risk of another level 5 offense, my confusion would be that you want to be stood right in front of the start button ready to receive your hot beverage anyway.
Having said that, my first home automation on a vera lite and still my favourite was to start the kitchen coffee percolator from my bed upstairs - happy happy, joy joy! Good luck!
I'm right there with you @Servalan, and I'm likely not sophisticated enough about coffee to understand why you would want to automate the beginning of the process. I can fully understand wanting to automate the rest of process after pressing start.
I definately wouldn't want to have my grounds sit overnight, oxygenating. I can tell the difference from pre-ground and freshly ground. Any automated machine I would ever consider would have to grind the beans just before brewing. Once brewed, I agree that you either want to drink it right away, or hold it at an exact temperature to preserve the taste.
Ember is my new favorite in coffee tech. I grind the beans, brew and prepare my cup when I wake up. I then consume my coffee over the next hour to hours, and I find Ember to be so precise that I cannot tell the difference between the first minute and hours later.
Hey @SmartHomePrimer,
At the risk of hijacking the thread AND going off topic (level 4 or 6?): I've considered the Ember mugs and don't know anyone who has one, so most interested to hear about your positive experience. My current preferred method of consumption is to scatter half consumed Contigo West Loop vacuum insulated mugs around the house throughout the day. They stay hot for a good few hours until rediscovered. Of course ALL this nonsense would stop if the holy grail could be acquired - the fully automated cup of tea! If anyone has figured this out in a manner that (mostly) avoids boiling water and plastic, I would love to know!
Just a couple out there I've been looking into.
Breville has a coffeemaker with built-in burr grinder.
I use the machine’s clock and auto-start feature to brew coffee right before I wake up in the morning. I hate waiting even the few minutes it takes after pushing the start button to pour a cup.
My favorite coffee automation is telling the succubus I married to wake me with a kiss and a hot cup of coffee... but that hasn't worked in thirty years.
My plain espresso machine is semi-automated. The switch on the machine itself is permanently set to on position but there is a power metering smart switch for turning machine on/off and to detect when brewing is done. Yes, I have to add coffee and water manually. A reed switch attached to the contact sensor and a little magnet attached to the coffee holder tells rm rule when machine is ready for brewing and sounds an "ready" announcement. There are few scattered around buttons for starting actulal brewing. When brewing is complete smart switch detects it because power consumption drops to zero. And announcement tels us coffee is ready.
Well I don't want to hijack either, but I'm very guilty of that, very often. One really long (somewhat rambling) reply and we can take it to a PM or just start an Ember thread if you want to know more.
There's no Hubitat integration for Ember, but there is one on HA and there's HADB, so it counts. 
There's a lot of versions of the Ember out there. I own the original Ember Travel Mug, which I got becuase I like the idea of a lid to improve battery run time and prevent spills, and I like an easy to transport mug for the car, especially one that will stay just the right temp.
Many Ember users love their mugs (overwhelmingly positive reviews) and I totally get it now that I have one. What the biggest complaint is about, has to do with battery longevity. I have the skills to rebuild the battery for my Travel mug. That point is key to my choice of which Ember mug to buy. Most of the new mugs (possibly all of them now) cannot have their battery changed. So when it won't charge any more, you have to throw away the mug. That sucks for consumers since they're not cheap and it sucks for the planet in terms of e-waste.
The second most complained about aspect are the pogo pins in the charge base sticking down, but that's avoidable and somewhat user repairable.
The original 10 oz Ember mug can take an aftermarket battery. You just twist the base off and do a little disassembly to change the battery with a new one.
The original Ember Travel mug (the one with the rotating base to adjust the temp) can also be disassembled. The caveat is that there is no replacement battery pack available. Even when the Ember Travel mug v1 was still in production (the newer Ember Travel mug 2 and 2+ use a different battery type), Ember refused to sell replacement battery packs to anyone. So if you're like me, you can follow the steps in the video linked above and rebuild the battery with replacement cells from Aliexpress. It's a bit of work, since it's raw (unprotected) cells needed for the job, and they are only available with integrated protection that has to first be removed from each cell before reassembly. But I chatted with a Reddit user that said he did it and gave me some pointers. I'm in the process, but accidentally broke one of the tabs off a new cell. So I've had to order more from China before I can proceed. Another month wait and I should be in business.
OK, that first tangent aside, I absolutely love the mug. I can enjoy my coffee and I never make a face when I find out it's cold like I did with regular mugs, never burn myself becuse it's too hot like can happen with thermos types (Ember has a small amount of insulation. It's dependant on the battery or the charging base to maintain temp), and I can set it to eactly where I want my coffee temp to be. For me that perfect temp is 130˚F. If you like your coffee really hot (beyone 145˚F), then Ember is not for you. Also, I'm going to assume that people liking their coffee that hot, are also not going to get the same battery run time. Many reviewers suggest that point.
Currently I get around 45 min on battery and then it's dead, but most of the time it's on the base right next to me so it can last for as long as I need it to. I drink my coffee with milk, so if I don't get it hot enough before pouring it in the mug and it needs to heat it up several degrees, then the mug can sometimes suddenly show the battery as empty, even though it isn't. Probably cannot handle the full load on the battery required, and if I turn it off and back on, the battery doesn't show empty and it continues (sometimes). My mug was used. I'm not expecting new performance. I was expecting to do this battery rebuild from the start. I paid $56 USD ($100 CAD by the time it got to me) on Amazon.com for the Ember Travel mug version 1, and the replacement batteries were around $42 USD (Shipping to US varies based on state + Orange man tax). Of course, I would order an extra just in case you make a mistake. A lesson that I didn't learn until I had to pay shipping twice.
So if you are not into the battery change or rebuild idea, then I would say Ember (whichever type you prefer) is very much worth it if you're OK with the high price for brand new, and the limited lifespan. I don't think I would be as happy with an Ember non-travel mug type. I like the display info on the mug (i.e. Rough battery level and exact temp of the coffee). It will likely cost you more than origially planned if you go for the car charger too (which is very specific to Ember and trying to build my own didn't work out). I also bought the sip lid for the travel mug and I bought an extra charge base to have in another part of the house (but got that for a used price and Amazon sent me a brand new one).
There's little use for the app in my opinion and I'm not alone in that. The app shows exact battery percentage and allows firmware updates if they're needed. Other than that, it's not really needed with the Ember Travel mug. Everything you really need to know is displayed on the mug. All the other Ember mugs rely on a color led and the app when you need more information. That might be where the HA integration is more interesting to some, but for me it's just not needed. I played with it, but I don't use ESP Home, so Bluetooth range is limited.
In regard to other brands of temperature controlled coffee mugs, I've no personal experience but the many reviews I looked at all said that nobody is able to control the temerature as precicely as Ember. It's a pretty sophisticated design and there are three different controller boards in the mug. Heating is also very gental, yet fast enough for a minor reheat if needed (if you don't pick up the mug from the charger base for a few hours, it will auto shut-off).
That's one I've looked at before. When our current coffee maker, or our grinder dies (whichever comes first), that one is top of my list.
@SmartHomePrimer Thanks so much for the indepth Ember details - far more than I could have learned poking around on review sites - most appreciated. It is disheartening when things aren't user serviceable (though I also don't have the skills)! However, I can understand wanting to seal things tight when water is involved.
Their design decisions are well considered and make sense to me. This is a mug for everybody (willing to pay the high price) and I can see how it would compromise the design and run time if they made the battery removable.
I've read posts where people were out of warranty, but Ember offered them a replacement at a reduced cost. I think they're trying a bit harder than some give them credit for.
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