New Philips Hue Bridge Pro and Other Stuff

Thanks...not surprising, maybe they'll find ways to improve. So at least initially an add-on capability that doesn't replace the ned to use "real" motion sensors for prompt lighting control. Still seems pretty cool. :wink:

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my guess is faster and more reliable if u are moving and have a butt load of lights in a room so algorithm can see/coordinate reduction of signal strength as you walk by multiple of the lights.

would be interesting to see if we can mimic that by writing a rule or app with multiple triggers on devices where we can get signal strength. rssi in a room.

probably one reason why a new hub is needed ... that type of sensing/rule seems like it would be cpu intensive

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Yes. I swiped the following from Reddit, but it’s designed for more of a three dimensional space rather than just in a straight line. Basically, this technology needs depth and space between lights to work best.

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I'm certainly not looking a gift horse in the mouth. Free extra data points seems like a win.

I'd like to see some plugs with the tech to combine with ceiling lights. That would get excellent 3d coverage.

It's not going to be mmwave class presence sensing.

Of course I am going to use it for security sensors...

I think it's going to be fun to play with regardless. My hub hasn't shipped yet so it's going to be a while. I have 12' ceilings with ceiling lights in most rooms. Some have table lamps. We shall see.

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Anyone been able to add hue bridge pro to Hubitat?

I jsut migrated my v2 hue bridge onto the pro using the hue app and removed the v2 from my Hubitat c8.

Now that I’m trying to add my pro onto my c8 using the native Hubitat hue app, my pro bridge is not showing up on the list of bridges to add.

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Tagging @bertabcd1234 as I believe he may know something about this.

You will need to wait for platfrom 2.4.3 or possibly a future 2.4.2 hotfix, assuming the Bridge Pro supports only HTTPS (rather than HTTP) as was reported. You could also use manual setup if this isn't true and discovery is the only problem, but I suspect not.

(I suppose there are technically alternatives like running an HTTP proxy to it if you know how but not sure I'd bother. :slight_smile: )

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It is nice that the docs actually state this at the moment.

Migrating to the Hue Bridge Pro is not currently recommended, but we expect to address compatibility in a future platform version.

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Waiting on integration for Hue Bridge Pro and found this thread. Any ETA on when this may be happening?

This is still the case:

No estimate on release, but it is currently in beta and likely not for too much longer.

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If you can't wait to migrate to the Pro bridge, you can join the beta here

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It definitely has a cool factor to it... Too early to tell if it's more than that...

Just submitted the Beta application with UUID. Thanks!!

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I am curious to understand how the hub can now service 150 bulbs. I have read somewhere that potentially they have 3 Zigbee radios? How would this impact the Hubitat Zigbee?

Reason I am cautious is that I have recently introduced a second Hue bridge (of the older variety) and I have seen issues, even though my Hue hubs and Hubitat are on seperate radios.

I am thinking that perhaps the hubs are too close to each other, which might cause an issue, but then I also wonder how a Hue Pro hub would impact the Zigbee network on the Hubitat.

Can you provide a source for this?

I don't see any evidence of this -- there is only a single channel selector for the Bridge Pro in the Hue app, suggesting it's only one (not that it couldn't be three on the same channel, but that's normally a bad idea). There's also no reason it would need to do this: 150 is well within the theoretical limits for a single Zigbee network, which uses 16-bit IDs and thus has 2^16 - 1 or 65,535 addresses available.

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When I googled about it, there's a pre-release Hueblog (IIRC) article that suggests/theorizes 3 zigbee radios as a means to accomplish some new features, but no evidence is provided and no further rationale is provided why such a theory genuinely makes any sense.

I could not find any other sources that even mention the notion of multiple radios.

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[edited to improve FCC reference]

It's has one antenna for zigbee. I imagine the confusion is speculative internet blog posts.

FCC ID 2AGBW9290035826X

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Sigh....yes. :slight_smile: https://hueblog.com/2025/08/22/hue-bridge-pro-how-can-150-lights-be-connected-at-all/

(I'm really surprised he even made this guess, though I guess there was insistence from Philips/Signify in the past about stability beyond 50...)

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Ha, yes, I too was surprised that dude said such a thing.

I'm no Hueblog regular, but that big of a whiff indicates some surprisingly glaring fundamental misunderstandings that erode the heck out of any confidence that I'd otherwise perhaps place in them (given how long they've been around).

ETA -- I always thought it was pretty obvious that the whole "50-ish limit" thing was driven by processor-related constraints with the bridge hardware (versus any sort of zigbee platform-level limitation), but clearly other folks thought zigbee was behind it this whole time.

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Ai also reads those and perpetuates the problem.

To be fair the bulk of their FCC docs were hidden. We'll get them by end of year probably.

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