LOL, just need some time to get familiar with where we hide things. Give it a few weeks and it will become second nature, and if you ever get lost there are plenty on here that will lend a hand.
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Ok, one more question, not necessary related to the room lighting, but I have a ceiling light with dimmable and temperature LED with colour strip. I can change values from both separately, but can't do both, whites and colours. How I should route it? I guess I can't duplicate a device.
What's the manufacturer and model? Guessing that you'd need a custom driver that creates a child for each.
Its Rovito-Z by Eglo, Works with ZigBee
Thanks for that. FWIW, the devices I had that were "going red x" were both Z-Wave Plus (Jasco dimmers/switches and Minoston dimmer plug running Eva Logik driver, which just seems to work better than the Minoston driver w/that plug).
I've seen an improvement in this issue in RL since recent updates.
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Nice app - glad I took the time to move over from Motion. I was going on about the motion inactive not being able to turn off after an external light turn on (despite that light being an activation event) however I just discovered the countdown timer. Works perfectly! I still think the motion timer (alone) could be utilized in this use case.
This works, just making sure I don't have some round-robin activations setup here? I'm purposefully trying to link the two lights so one turns on the other, either from this app or externally.
Look at the Logs it creates. It being Activated by the Device it turns on is certainly suspect for a loop, but perhaps it stops after once.
No it looks like it's captured in one, maybe two instances of "ignoring, already Activated" (paraphrasing here) in the logs, so I think I'm okay. Just wasn't sure if there was a cleaner/more appropriate way. Thanks!
It appears the timer may not be adhering to the "from First/Last activation event" selection? Turn off event happens exactly 10min after the initial turn-on. Or is this because subsequent events aren't "counted" as true activation events ("already activated")?
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Second, possibly related issue: my wife told me "the light is flickering". Something happened where the app was toggling my light on/off rapidly, shown below.
app:6162022-10-11 06:19:35.782 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.448 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.447 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.443 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.442 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.427 pm errorjava.lang.IllegalStateException: app 616 has 31 scheduled jobs already on line 2439 (method offHandler)
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.409 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.394 pm errorjava.lang.IllegalStateException: app 616 has 31 scheduled jobs already on line 2439 (method offHandler)
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.329 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.314 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.312 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.234 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.130 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.112 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.109 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.091 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.090 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:55.053 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.969 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.899 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.832 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.830 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.765 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.675 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.657 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.652 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.634 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.632 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.582 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.504 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.420 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.390 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.389 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.344 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.236 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.219 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.215 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.199 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.195 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.145 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:54.065 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.973 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.956 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.954 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.883 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.810 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.751 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.748 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.725 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.723 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.655 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.565 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.539 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.501 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.499 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.462 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.394 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.340 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.337 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.305 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.304 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.191 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.103 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.082 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:53.017 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.951 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.873 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.868 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.830 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.828 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.769 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.693 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.674 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.670 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.669 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.645 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.644 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.608 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.548 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.486 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.482 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.449 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.447 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.399 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.323 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.301 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.297 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.295 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.219 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.136 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.119 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.115 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.110 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.109 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:52.048 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.968 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.948 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.944 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.942 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.878 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.794 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.758 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.754 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.707 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.705 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.656 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.586 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.565 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.546 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.545 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.494 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.424 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.383 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.377 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.321 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.234 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.216 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.175 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.104 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.082 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.076 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.057 pm infoAlready Turned Off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:51.055 pm infoTurn Off Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch off
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:50.973 pm infooff: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:50.909 pm infooff: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:50.839 pm infoTurn Off Event: time
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:14.407 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:18:14.406 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
app:6162022-10-11 06:16:42.436 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:16:42.435 pm infoActivation Event: 'ContactLaundryDoor' contact open
app:6162022-10-11 06:16:32.996 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:16:32.994 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
app:6162022-10-11 06:10:02.279 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:10:02.277 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
app:6162022-10-11 06:09:36.529 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:09:36.527 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.955 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.954 pm infoActivation Event: 'PlugGarageLight' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.876 pm infoAlready Activated
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.875 pm infoActivation Event: 'SwitchGarageMain' switch on
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.814 pm infoon: SwitchGarageMain
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.775 pm infoon: PlugGarageLight
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.738 pm infoActivating for All Modes
app:6162022-10-11 06:08:50.733 pm infoActivation Event: 'MotionGarage' motion active
Correct. The app does not start the timer over in those cases. I don't know if it should.
You have to use screenshots for logs. I can't read them as copy/paste.
This whole idea of using the devices that are activated with circular logic as also Means, is a BAD IDEA.
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Bummer. This is the same for motion then... which means subsequent motion events can't "extend" turn-off time from last motion, even if activation was originally a door open. This seems like an obvious/natural need - ability to reset these countdowns on re-activations (even if "already activated").
I agree - I'm going to disable the lights as activations for now to debug.
The log was multiple screen lengths, which is why I copied/pasted. Here 'ya go. 
I guess we found our "race" condition! For context we were both actively in and out of the garage this evening when this occurred.
You do this with the Means to Turn Off of 'All Motion Stays Inactive' or 'All Contacts Stays Closed'. That does re-start a timer for each inactive or closed event. Not sure why you're trying to do this the way you are.
Because I don't know any better? This is how I would logically expect this app to behave (or how I'm trying to configure it). First time using it so I may just have a misunderstanding. I appreciate the help thus far.
-From an 'Off' state, a door open, or inactive->active motion event turns on lights
-if a subsequent inactive->active motion event occurs, reset motion 'become and stay inactive' timer
-if a subsequent door open event occurs, reset countdown off timer
Stretch: if light turns on (regardless of means), turn off after countdown timer, unless timer is reset by door open or motion inactive->active
Edit: I guess what I'm discovering is that the motion inactive timer and general timer can't co-exist, at least in my case. If I enter the garage via any door, it starts the countdown. The motions are then ignored. The lights shut off after countdown regardless if there are motion events.
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This is why you want to use the timers associated with motion inactive and contact closed.
Ok, that changes things a bit for at least one of my use cases. I have a patio area where the lights are set to turn on when the contact for the door opens and then stay on for 2 hours from last activation event (contact sensor being the only means to activate). So what I think Iām reading here is that since the timer doesnāt reset, it will turn off the lights 2 hours after the door was first opened, no matter how many times itās been opened and closed in between?
You'd have to show the app.
HI, Iām having an issue with RL when I have the āVary light settings per time periodā set up. Iām trying to set up my front porch lights to turn on at sunset, then at 11pm change brightness and color temperature, then turn off at sunrise.
I have that all set up in the table, but it didnāt activate at Sunset and also doesnāt show the sunset scheduled event for tomorrow. Any ideas why? I also have another issue with a different RL automation that didnāt update the mode when it changed at sunset. So not sure whether thatās related or notā¦
