Need to extend zigbee range outside


#1

I have an old X10 module that powers a relay about 200' from the house. I would like to somehow replace the X10 module with a ZigBee outlet. Everything is in a weatherproof enclosure, so that's not going to help out with the signal. There's no way to get a repeater in between.....the wire from the house to that location is buried.

Any ideas? Is there some kind of long range module/repeater available?

If I can get this to work, I would also like for it to repeat the signal another 200' or so to my barn, but let's tackle one thing at a time for now.


#2

Was just gearing up to ask a similar question but on 1/10th that scale.
I suppose an outdoor outlet on the side of my house might help, but I already have an WiFi Outdoor Outlet that I want to use in the backyard.

Have some colored lights that I'm looking to put around my pool.

Edit: I think I want to join them to my Hue... I have a Tradfri bulb that I could probably put in the backyard light socket but then I get into the lovely "nobody touch the switch" issues... Ugh...


#3

I saw this the other day when I was looking for a way to boost zigbee. Don't know if it will work but may be worth a look.
https://www.digi.com/products/networking/rf-adapters-modems/xbee-wall-router


#4

Would this work? It doesn't look like a "simple" repeater to me.


#5

Okay, this isn't very hard to do, but takes a bit of time, go slow and treat it as a challenge. Get an XBee module and a solar powered battery charge(cellphone type). Use the battery pack to run the XBee, and the sunwill charge the battery. Xbees have an amazing range especially in open space.
See this thread:

Charger:


#6

As an alternate, replace the X10 module with an Insteon outlet. You'll have to buy a 2245 hub, but, if you're just handling a single outlet, the direct PLM driver @cwwilson08 created will work fine. It's not the best driver to use for switches and dimmers, but if you were going to use a Zigbee outlet, then it's clear you were not interested in the load sense feature.

It's $50 for the dual relay outlet and $67 for the 2245-222 hub. Control will be direct from HE to the hub.


#7

Is that a plastic container (hopefully not metal) and is it in line of sight to your home ?
Are you located somewhere where there will be little other radio interference from Wifi/ZigBee ?


#8

Yes....plastic enclosure with AC power available. Direct line of sight to house. Rural area so only WiFi and zigbee signals are mine.


#9

Hey Kid, did anyone provide any details on the "AMX NXR-ZRP-Pro NetLinx ZigBee Pro Repeater" you linked to ?? :slight_smile:


#10

Nope.


#11

I am still wondering and curious mostly why the device I mentioned above wouldn't work. You said you have a plastic enclosure with AC. A regular AC receptacle inside the enclosure with this device and it would act as a repeater. It is basically an Xbee that everyone uses but in an plugin case.

https://www.digi.com/products/networking/rf-adapters-modems/xbee-wall-router

I found it here for a decent price.
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/xr-z14-cw1p1/digi-international?utm_source=eciaauthorized&utm_medium=aggregator&utm_campaign=acna_ecia_2019&utm_content=inv_listing&utm_keyword=XR-Z14-CW1P1


#12

So, do you think this would be better at the sending (hub) end or the receiving (appliance) end?


#13

@thekidb The specs says this "Extends signal strength and range of an XBee Zigbee mesh network"
Maybe someone with the knowledge of how these Xbee devices work could take a look at the specs for this device and tell you if it will work.


#14

That looks to be the goods, eh.
Maybe ask the ‘will it work’ question in the Everything Xbee, thread.
@vjv, what are your thoughts on this one ?
@thekidb, repeaters are typically placed between the hub and the ‘extended’ sensor location. Think of the sensor signals, hopping through the repeater and onto the hub.
Unless you have zigbee scanning tools, the location for placing a repeater will be a bit of trial and error.


#15

The issue is that the location is about 200' away with no way to install a repeater in between.


#16

Hmm grab a few beers and start reading....Everything Xbee
:blush::+1:t2:


#17

@njanda, true about having it in-between the hub and the outlying device. Placing it at the end may not due the trick. I was under the impression @thekidb had a power box somewhere in the middle. Maybe one closest to the door going out (line of sight) and one of these on the other end.