Should lr devices be paired close to the hub then moved to final location or attempted in place?
I'm no expert but this is what I think.
Since the LR Z-Wave devices only talk to the hub, I'd say do it the easy way...close to the hub.
My most recent experience was with a couple of ZSE18 LR motion sensors I put in my mailbox and package bin.
I wrapped them in plastic film, so if I had to wake them up or otherwise fool around with them, it'd be a hassle.
Before I got the bright idea of moving the hub a little for better radio, I'd walk down the driveway, and at a certain point, it just gave up. Walk back, it'd pick up again.
After moving the hub (down from the window sill to on-wall), communicated with both. Leaves on trees, rain, etc, don't help either.
I've done both. My farthest LR devices are a couple Z17s in my detached garage -- those paired in place.
I've paired several battery devices LR at my desk (fairly close to hub by happenstance) and then put them in final spots around the house after pairing.
No pairing issues either way.
@kahn-hubitat Just remember, in order to pair as LR you need to use smart start or it will just pair as normal z-wave. Also remember that LR devices don't participate in the z-wave mesh so they are not repeaters.
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what a buzz kill. zooz zse41 paired pretty easily with smart start.. but doesnt work even half way to mailbox, let alone inside the metal mailbox where the samsung multisensor v4 zigbee works fine!
so much for 1.2 mile range for LR devices..
i opened a ticked with zooz. they need to know the specs are bs on this .. i cannot use this sensor.. see if i can get a refund
Did it for certain pair as LR?
I have the ZSE41 800LR (be aware the non LR is also called the ZSE41) and mine stopped working at about 3/4 of a mile...I was almost at the liquor store down the road and was just enjoying opening and closing the sensor while looking at my phone...
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what are you getting at. obviously i have the 800lr or it wouldnt pair as lr. and i am looking at the box.. maybe i have a defecive device.. but it still has to go through two walls as hub is not in the window.
I was just pointing out during buying it can be confusing is all and making sure you had the LR version. I almost got bit when I bought
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ya i bought in prep just for this moment.. as although the zigbee sensors works fine.. it is hard on the 2450 battery and it only lasts about 2 months i was hoping for a better outcome
zooz replied asking some questions and i answered see what they say and if they send me a replacement device.
I had to replace a Light Switch a few weeks ago and I got couple of Zen71 LR switches. I purchased one to have as a spare. When I paired it LR was not yet supported and it is paired as a normal Z-wave device. This particular device is very close to the hub, so it doesn't need to be LR.
So if it is paired normal, then it is used as a repeater? It's not being used as one, according to the Z-wave mesh tool, but I have many repeater type devices that are not.
Yes, if an LR-capable device is paired non-LR (which is totally fine - many of mine are), then they participate in the regular mesh just as any traditional ZW device would. LR and regular mesh are separate/unique ZW frequencies.
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I’m going through this with a different device, but still under warranty. I was told to send it in for evaluation and if they find it defective they will send a replacement. There was a time not long ago they would trouble shoot by email and just go ahead and replace it. Clearly something has changed.
That is what they did with a Zen34 I had. I had to send it in for evaluation. That was April of last year.
Did they send a replacement?
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interesting in response to my own question apparently it DOES matter where you pair a LR device.. zooz got back to me and i had hope.. see below.
however it would not pair at the location or even exclude even after a full reset of the device...
and as far as i am concerned when the device doesnt get a response it should automatically switch modes anyway.. i just think these devices firmware is not up to snuff.
Thank you for those details!
Long Range in the US currently has two power levels for ZWLR: matching the RF transmit power to the typical power supply of the intended application. +14dBm is often utilized in battery-powered devices, where even the 41mA current can strain low-cost batteries. On the other hand, the +20dBm is better suited for mains-powered devices, maximizing the range potential. ZWLR employs dynamic RF power, meaning that for nodes situated close enough to the hub, only sufficient RF power is utilized to reliably communicate with the controller. Would you be able to exclude the sensor and re-include it from the target location, to ensure the correct RF transmit power is utilized?
Looking forward to hearing back from you.
Sara
