Life360 Broken

Bummer that there isn't a "good" alternative for android users. OwnTracks is great but without tasker and some silliness it doesn't load/start working on its own (last I saw).

Not really wanting to have all family members install hubitat or HA app either.

:frowning:

I've seen at least one person say they use gpslogger on android. Would also take some custom work though. https://gpslogger.app/

We haven't done it because some folks were reporting that it still works. But it seems like Life 360 is sending strong messages that they are not welcoming 3rd parties to use their API, anymore.

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Well, if that’s the case then I’ll cancel my subscription. At least they should provide APIs for paying subscribers. I just sent them a message and I guess the HE community should do the same…

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100%

They are taking the dumbest actions and order of steps possible. MANY of their customers would pay them just to have back what they were getting for free for years.

JUST LET US PAY ALREADY. lol

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JUST LET US PAY ALREADY. lol

The annoying part is if you choose to pay for their better packages, you still cannot get the API's. I was willing to do that!

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Bummer that there isn't a "good" alternative for android users. OwnTracks is great but without tasker and some silliness it doesn't load/start working on its own (last I saw).

Current 2.4.x version has that issue, the next 2.5.x version will fix that. I pulled down the app code from GitHub, and adding in ability to have background service (at least for Android) works very well. Had to local build and side load to test it though.

Don't know the ETA on the 2.5.x version. Author is still working through some bugs and improvements.

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Mine still works, maybe not for long?

EDIT.. I use Life360+ and it still works for my wife and I

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v2.5 relsae notes:

  • Background location permission! (Hurray!)

Nice. I'll keep on the watch for the final version. Don't have time to test the beta/preview right now.

For those with Home Asstnt I think they have fixed their life360 integration as of last night. For now anyway, until the cat and mouse games continue over at Life360.

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Mine works and I'm still running Life360+ v3.0.23 and using it to open MyQ Lite v3.2 garage doors via presence. I did notice that the Life360 App on my iPhone is saying that my phone number needs verification, but I'm not going to do that. It was verified when it was initially installed, so I'm wondering if that changed the logon verification and creating issues.
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That is Life360+, not the native version. The native relied on the transition events (that no longer come over the API). Life360+ perpetually polls your account for updates. I'd suspect that will slowly die in the near future as they keep pruning 3rd party support.

I'm 110% sure that your MyQ Lite integration is dead though. Chamberlain publicly posted they killed that API link, and you can no longer log in via the integrations you listed.

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I had read that those with Life360+ were having the issue as well. For now, my doors are still working using Life 360+ as a presence monitor to open both of my garage doors using the MyQ Lite App.

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I'm not sure how your MyQ app is still working, but MyQ will likely soon find & close whatever loophole it is - they've made it clear they are taking no prisoners with 3rd-party access.

All signs point to Life360 doing the same thing WRT cutting off 3rd-party access.

If I were you, I'd start looking hard for alternative solutions to both.

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That is correct, Life360+ is down too. For those suggesting an alternative plan, ideas? I’ve tried a number of solutions with similar spotty results including using the HE app. We’re an iOS house.

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I really like the (Zigbee) SmartThings Arrival Sensor. Needs a little battery every 5 weeks or so, is only downside. Don't make them anymore. They pop up on eBay.

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Lots of options. If you have an Apple TV or HomePod you can use virtual switches and Apple Home automations. If you want an app Geofency is IMO the 'best' and it has a Mac app if you are interested in using location for more than Hubitat automations.

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Where can I find more info on this one? We have AppleTVs and I’ve played with HomeKit a bit but haven’t been real impressed. Just downloaded geofency, wanting to make sure it works well before spending $5 a person to wire everyone in.

Ha. Blast from the past. I’ve got a handful of those sitting in a drawer, they’re a pita to maintain for multiple people and they take forever to register. I need something that gets me 100 yards away at the mailbox and starts doing stuff like unlocking doors etc.

I'm about 300 yards too at the front gate, and it works okay for the garage door.
I've tried using it to open the gate, and yes, pushing the button on the remote is a more satisfying experience. But for the garage, fine.
My C-8 hub is on the windowsill though, and I live alone.
A handful, eh? Post 'em up in the Lounge. As a public service. :slight_smile:

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It's pretty easy. In Hubitat add a virtual switch with presence (built in driver). Share that switch with Apple Home (built in HomeKit app or 3rd party Homebridge app). In Apple Home program 2 Apple Home Automations. 1) When person arrives turn switch on, 2) When person leaves turn switch off. Repeat for each person.

The purchase is sharable if everyone is in the same Apple Family.

Another free alternative that is similar is Locative. You have to manually set up Maker API.

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Hmmm...maybe I'll dig them out and try them again. Just reminds me how long I've been trying to get reliable presence. Years fighting with ST and now more years with HE :grinning: