Feedback: 2.4.0 UI Overhaul

Sure, but to review individual devices and reassign them, it's much nicer now as the device pops up in an overlay, you click the "device info" tab, reassign the room, and save and close drops you back to a freshly updated list, exactly where you left off.

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Nice.....

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Just tried this, and your right, it's really nice. :+1:

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I'm already forgetting how the previous interface looked. And why is this marked as Solved?

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Finger trouble on my part I suspect. :man_facepalming:

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I tried for a few mins, but my phone is a little older. This resulted in an incredibly sluggish UI, which the powers-that-be seem to have blamed on an old version of android.

Not getting into that again.

I reverted back purely because the old firmware UI was fine.

Anyhoo, in the few minutes I did use it, I was frustrated at not being able to just click on/off and see the device current status without needing a million clicks.

Perhaps I'm wrong. I didn't leave it installed long enough to have a good play.

FWIW, I’m not the powers that be, I just did some digging into what technology was behind the new UI and what devices were known to have performance issues on it.

AFAIK, Hubitat haven’t commented on my “findings”.

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I’m not sure why you’re so convinced the new UI will never work out for you.

As @dJOS mentioned, it was him and another user (@oldcomputerwiz) that offered an explanation as to why you’re experiencing such sluggishness.

The only reply from a staff member on this specific issue is this:

I think your pessimism (right after a major UI update was released) is unwarranted.

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Never Change I Am Who I Am GIF by FX Networks

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I'm all for change. System administration functionality should be focused on efficiency. The Device tabs I mostly like. With the freed up space I'd get rid of the multiple cells per row. There's too much white space too. The most annoying part is the flyout design. It adds nothing to efficiency and it comes at the expense of not working like a real web page.

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I don’t really see much of flyouts myself as I use my desktop exclusively for doing any admin stuff. The only time i use the phone app is if i wan’t to look at doorlock status or hit the mute button for an alert. My only issue is that the column headers scroll offscreen with the whole page, but according to @gopher.ny it’s not an easy fix and honestly if that’s the worst I don’t like then the dev team did a helluva job.

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I wonder if anyone else is noticing this issue with legacy dashboards since upgrading to 2.4?

Me mostly too. Try using the browser back button or page refresh while on a device page. You will end up in a place that you are not really intending to be. Of course the flyout has its own 'x' to exit and circle icon to refresh. My issue is the flyout and non-standard methods don't really add anything to system administration capabilities/efficiency.

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I disagree, I’ve already found scenarios where it works well and is helpful.

I kinda agree .. its a little annoying :frowning:
But hey .. looks pretty :slight_smile: lol

Oh come on, really!

Let's look at at the reality here. A brief summary...

I have zero performance issues, but I upgrade to new UI - terrible.
Other users on older hardware confirm lag.
Someone speculates old android/combo version to blame?
Roll back, all good! Woo! Definite UI issue.
Crowd fail to accept this - maybe my hub has too many apps, maybe I should check logs. The usual.
I reaffirm that old UI = fine. New UI = very slow.

Its the same old. For whatever reason, unless feedback sings the praises or the hardware/team, the forum regulars take offence. And if the reported issue IS quantifiable and currently unfixable, the you can rely on a bout of deafening silence.

I don't like change? Garbage. I don't like taking a performance hit caused by redesign. I've had the same gear for years. Years. I've upgraded the hub firmware as and when.

Now it seems I'll need to hang fire on updating my hub, until my phone, which can handle EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE NEW UI just fine, is replaced. Luckily, my hub is fine and j don't really on the updates.

That's not about hating change.

Just setting the record straight there lads.

You lot really, really need to stop being so readily dismissive of reported issues. It's becoming a habit.

I'm not making a big deal of this. I making a big deal of the usual community pushback to reported issues.

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I'm not sure what the basis of this claim is, as staff have acknowledged this concern:

Further, there are plans in place to address exactly this issue. Keep an eye out for the changes in the next hotfix (EDIT: out now!). I'm sure that feedback on whether these changes were, in fact, helpful will be welcome, as they are clearly not universal -- but that does not mean they are being denied.

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It seems like you are, especially when the following was said above by staff. You aren't being ignored.

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I and others were just trying to understand and identify the issues you reported - I'm a professional IT Problem Manager (along with running the Change Management and Major Incident function in my day job), so for me, I was just trying to see if there was a workaround or solution for you.

As we found, web browser performance was a possible factor on old HW, and now that I'm home from my family vacation, I can confirm that on my old personal 2013 MacBook Pro, the UI is also much slower than with 2.3.x. But I'm not going to revert due to one old device in my fleet.

I dont recall anyone being "dismissive" of the issues you reported (other than one joke, humans dont usually like change so ...) - Hubitat even said they'd look into it so perhaps send your device specs and android version to @gopher.ny

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Do whatever makes you happy.

I was simply trying to point out that there’s no reason to assume things won’t improve with updates in the near future.

In fact, they’ve already released an update with bug fixes that include:

:v:

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