EU - Lidl smart home

In Denmark, this week only as I'm informed, LIDL has some Smart home devices on sale.
The brands are Silvercrest and Livarno Lux. There's a gateway as well and they are saying that the devises are running on Zigbee 3.0.

Do anyone in here have some idea what these are based on or if they are supported by Hubitat?

Link (in danish): https://www.lidl.dk/da/c/smart-home/c2094/w1

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Looks like it is Heiman devices. At least motion sensor Smart Motion Sensor Heiman HS1MS_HEIMAN TECHNOLOGY CO., LIMITED
and door sensor Smart Door Sensor Heiman HS1DS_HEIMAN TECHNOLOGY CO., LIMITED

I went on and bought some of the devices, because curious :D.
It seems the Light strip is also from Heiman. It's Zigbee 3.0, so should be compatible with Hubitat.
I can pair it with Hubitat but it's only recognized as a CT and works perfectly as that. Just no color support.

Did you try a different driver?, like the rgb or rgbw?
Also, what is the bulb marketed as?, white temperature adjustable?, or something else....

Yeah, I've tried them all. Hubitat is recognizing it as CT only, and work quite well as that actually.
But it is a RGBW strip.

can you replace the current driver with the "Driver" driver, then paste a screen shot of the live logs after clicking the getInfo command?
Just wondering what this device is advertising cluster wise...

I have the extended info from the pairing here:
ID: D47E
Manufacturer: _TZ3000_riwp3k79
Product Name:
Model Number: TS0505A
deviceTypeId: 20
manufacturer : _TZ3000_riwp3k79
idAsInt : 1
inClusters : 0000,0003,0004,0005,0006,0008,0300,1000
endpointId : 01
profileId : 0104
application : 50
outClusters : 0019,000A
initialized : true
model : TS0505A
stage : 4
manufacturer :
idAsInt : 242
inClusters :
endpointId : F2
profileId : A1E0
application :
outClusters : 0021
initialized : true
model :
stage : 4

Driver changed to 'Generic Zigbee RGBW' and pressed Configure

Id Date Type Desc
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:39.164 debug evt- rawValue:2, value: CT, descT: Lidl - Strip colorMode is CT
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:39.155 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000A08003002, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0A, attrId: 0008, encoding: 30, command: 01, value: 02
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.966 debug evt- rawValue:370, value: 2702, descT: Lidl - Strip colorTemperature is 2702°K
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.957 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000C0700217201, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0C, attrId: 0007, encoding: 21, command: 01, value: 7201
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.767 debug evt- rawValue:254, value: 100, descT: Lidl - Strip saturation is 100%
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.758 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000A010020FE, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0A, attrId: 0001, encoding: 20, command: 01, value: FE
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.651 debug evt- rawValue:0, value: 0, descT: Lidl - Strip hue was set to 0°
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.641 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000A00002000, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0A, attrId: 0000, encoding: 20, command: 01, value: 00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.368 debug evt- rawValue:114, value: 45, descT: Lidl - Strip is 45%
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.358 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0100080A00002072, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0008, size: 0A, attrId: 0000, encoding: 20, command: 01, value: 72
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.176 debug evt- rawValue:0, value: off, descT: Lidl - Strip is off
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:38.173 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0100060A00001000, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0006, size: 0A, attrId: 0000, encoding: 10, command: 01, value: 00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:37.960 debug parse description: catchall: 0104 0300 01 01 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 07 01 8D000000
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:37.764 debug parse description: catchall: 0104 0300 01 01 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 07 01 8D000000
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:37.549 debug parse description: catchall: 0104 0300 01 01 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 07 01 8D000000
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:37.347 debug parse description: catchall: 0104 0300 01 01 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 07 01 8D000000
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:37.166 debug parse description: catchall: 0104 0008 01 01 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 07 01 00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:36.942 debug parse description: catchall: 0104 0006 01 01 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 07 01 00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:36.732 debug parse description: catchall: 0000 8021 00 00 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 00 00 5F00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:36.531 debug parse description: catchall: 0000 8021 00 00 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 00 00 5E00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:36.323 debug parse description: catchall: 0000 8021 00 00 0040 00 D47E 00 00 0000 00 00 5D00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:36.254 debug refresh
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:36.215 warn configure...
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:30.891 warn description logging is: false
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:30.888 warn debug logging is: true
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:30.886 warn Hue in degrees is: true
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:30.883 info updated...
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.714 info Lidl - Strip colorMode is CT
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.711 debug evt- rawValue:2, value: CT, descT: Lidl - Strip colorMode is CT
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.709 info Lidl - Strip color is Incandescent
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.701 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000A08003002, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0A, attrId: 0008, encoding: 30, command: 01, value: 02
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.518 info Lidl - Strip colorTemperature is 2702°K
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.515 debug evt- rawValue:370, value: 2702, descT: Lidl - Strip colorTemperature is 2702°K
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.508 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000C0700217201, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0C, attrId: 0007, encoding: 21, command: 01, value: 7201
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.326 info Lidl - Strip saturation is 100%
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.324 debug evt- rawValue:254, value: 100, descT: Lidl - Strip saturation is 100%
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.315 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000A010020FE, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0A, attrId: 0001, encoding: 20, command: 01, value: FE
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.108 info Lidl - Strip hue was set to 0°
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.099 debug evt- rawValue:0, value: 0, descT: Lidl - Strip hue was set to 0°
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:24.091 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0103000A00002000, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0300, size: 0A, attrId: 0000, encoding: 20, command: 01, value: 00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.904 info Lidl - Strip is 45%
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.901 debug evt- rawValue:114, value: 45, descT: Lidl - Strip is 45%
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.893 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0100080A00002072, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0008, size: 0A, attrId: 0000, encoding: 20, command: 01, value: 72
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.702 info Lidl - Strip is off
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.699 debug evt- rawValue:0, value: off, descT: Lidl - Strip is off
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.696 debug parse description: read attr - raw: D47E0100060A00001000, dni: D47E, endpoint: 01, cluster: 0006, size: 0A, attrId: 0000, encoding: 10, command: 01, value: 00
dev:219 2020-11-13 16:49:23.639 debug refresh

huh, so all of that looks as it should hue saturation color mode all reporting, and yet you're saying that executing the set hue command from the driver doesn't change the bulbs color and set the color mode to RGB?

That's correct.
It does work on a Hue bridge (as far as I know, haven't tried it myself) and Deconz/Phoscon.
So something is rotten in the state of Denmark (pun intended).

When I set the color the hue, saturation and level gets send, but it only responds to the level, and sometimes, the white color changes slightly (from perhaps, 2700K to 3000K).

ah, ok so this device needs to have the colors sent in xy coordinates, and doesn't support hue and saturation commands, though it apparently allows reading hue and saturation.
XY is supported on the hue bridge, hence it working there.
We will probably add hsl to xy internal conversion and support some time in the future, but right now we don't support xy color space commands.

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Thank you for your time. Much appreciated.
I will try to hook it up to my Hue bridge and get it working that way :slight_smile:

Thought I would continue here.
There's a sensor too which is picked up, but not recognized as anything.
It gets the 'Device' driver. But using the 'Generic ZigBee motion' driver can get it to work.

So here's the data from the pairing:
ID: 6D28
Manufacturer: _TZ1800_fcdjzz3s
Product Name:
Model Number: TY0202
deviceTypeId: 206
manufacturer : _TZ1800_fcdjzz3s
idAsInt : 1
inClusters : 0000,0001,0003,0500,0B05
endpointId : 01
profileId : 0104
application : 41
outClusters : 0019
initialized : true
model : TY0202
stage : 4

If it could be added to the Generic driver so it's recognised that would be awesome :slight_smile:

Okay some new discoveries.

I've found that the user driver IKEA Trådfri RGBW works wonders with the RGB aspect of the strip but slaughters the tunable white. So the ideal driver for this device would be some fusion of the generic ZigBee driver for tunable white and the IKEA RGBW driver for color :smiley:

Would be cool if the generic driver had a switch to use the XY implementation of the IKEA driver like there is with the 360 degrees hue. Not being a developer I realize it's probably not as easy as that :slight_smile:

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Hi,
im quite new in hubitat area. I tried this 'Generic ZigBee motion' and it didnt work for me. Am I doing something wrong?

I wrote about it here. It's a bit complicated with this sensor, but absolutely doable :slight_smile:

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Thanks. This helped me. The same approach works for contact sensor as well.

Have you seen this device: MELINERA® Lichterkette Zigbee Smart Home - Lidl.de ?
Looks like good idea right before Christmas.

Can't see it on the Danish Lidl site, but I'm absolutely going to see if I can find a store that has it. Although I suspect this one functions the same way as their other devices.

Available in Lidl UK next week

Cant see a motion or contact sensor only things that will be useful

only found the FAQs mentioning them Smart Home FAQs - www.lidl.co.uk