As always, thanks for your ongoing work on this. Its functionality that brings a lot of value!
I've updated to the latest version, all seems good.
I upgraded to a C8 Hub recently and had to go through the pairing again, it took a few goes and resulted in the same devices as it did on the previous Hub. I noticed that the website with instructions looked a bit different to before and the "Step 6" referred to didn't exist?
I thought I would go through the pairing steps here for you to check and amend?
Reset the Hive thermostat by pressing the back and menu buttons at the same time, wait for the count down and for it to restart and ask which language you would like. At this point remove the batteries to turn it off
Turn off the boiler and the boiler controller and wait for 5 seconds before turning back on. Press and hold the top button until the light on the controller is flashing pink. Press and hold the top button again until it flashes double amber.
Turn the thermostat by putting the batteries back in and choose a language, it will begin to seach.
Begin the search for new devices in Hubitat by searching for new Zigbee devices
As Hubitat detects the devices the lights on the controller will turn constant green the thermostat will complete its searching and begin the setup tutorial. Skip this.
Name the devices found by Hubitat to complete the setup.
If you could check the above? I think the sequence might not quite be right and my terminology of the devices might be unhelpful?
Also could you confirm what needs to be done with the Hub? Does this need to be completely removed from the home network and powered off in the new setup?
Huh, looks like they mangled their website a bit. I'll... recreate the instructions in the first post.
From what I can see you've pretty much got the process, though I always start by powering off the boiler and receiver first so there's no chance of the thermostat talking back to the receiver without pairing again.
The Hive hub? If you have no other devices using it just unplug it and consign it to the drawer of Interesting Things. It may become useful again if there's some shockingly important firmware update to be installed one day, but I find that highly unlikely after all this time.
I've been giving this driver a good kicking on the test system over the past few days and it's performing well enough that I've added the controls for our real heating system to HomeKit (via Homebridge) now.
Even flinging the settings around in the Home app doesn't appear to break anything; if you set something which is unsupported (cooling, either specifically or via the "keep between" temperatures) the driver simply takes the upper (or only) requested set point temperature and uses that as both the upper and lower value, so within a few seconds the system reports the correct auto (schedule) set point and HomeKit gets updated.
Thanks for this driver, had a day off work today so this was one of my projects on the list to move the Hive Thermostat over to HE direct after the HE > API fell apart last year.
All is working well, but I wanted to check what the behaviour is after the system is boosted. Does it revert back to the schedule if the system is on Auto at the time of boosting (e.g. does the driver store the current state and then restore it, or always revert to “off” after boosting) please?
The driver mimics the instruction sent by the Thermostat when requesting boost, which doesn't change the underlying operating mode. It will return to whichever mode it was in previously once the boost time has completed, and this behaviour is fixed in the Receiver's firmware. So far as I can tell there's no way to tinker with it, other than explicitly changing the mode before requesting the boost.
Answering your question in a less roundabout way; yes, if you trigger a boost from either the Thermostat or Hubitat while in schedule mode, the system will revert to schedule mode once the boost is completed.
@birdslikewires Thank you very much for your excellent driver and documentation. After reading through this forum topic I decided to go ahead and buy the thermostat and receiver and not bother with the hub at all. I've installed and paired everything up first go, and tested it out - IT works brilliantly, and if you ever get around to writing the child driver for hot water please sign me up to help with any beta testing. - Cheers!
Yes, I really must do that hot water component soon. I'm on a combi, but my test unit is the dual channel version and I've been meaning to hook it back up. Knowing it's actually going to make a difference to someone really helps with the motivation!
I've been following your work hear for a while, I have the duel channel unit aswell but I've been holding off trying your driver as I don't want to lose the hot water function of hive yet. Please could you work on the duel channel so I can finally move away from hive app and integrate with hubitat properly.
In case you weren't aware, you can continue to use the hot water function locally through your thermostat and receiver just fine, it's just that hot water won't appear in Hubitat. Switching over doesn't break the core functionality, it's just that the hot water element won't be appear in Hubitat or be controllable remotely.
If you want remote on / off, mode switching and status then of course, yes, you're right that'll currently be broken if you switch.
I'll shuffle this up the priority list for next time I get a little time!
I'd also much appreciate the hot water functionality.
My house has a 3 zone system, upstairs, downstairs and the hot water.
This winter I'm after realizing that it's a bit of a waste for the heating to come on and the hot water to not be heated at the same time.
The heating comes on for 30 minutes in the evening apart from other times and then if I want hot water I end up putting the gas on for another 30 minutes which is a waste.
I have the hive system connected to the downstairs system and hot water and upstairs I have a nest thermostat which was previously connected to the hot water.
Over the last few weeks I've been pulling my hair out because in the hive app I can't automate the hot water based on the boiler being on.
I also have Alexa and google home for my sins and unfortunately it's not possible to trigger any routines there either based on the status of the heating.
On the nest thermostat side google doesn't even support hot water control in it's app or in the APIs, the only place where hot water can be controlled is in the nest app which is somewhat deprecated.
Long story short I've been looking to replace my nest and hive thermostats with something else that is maybe zigbee controlled and can control my 2 zones and hot water.
But now I'll hold out and and hopefully you can add support for hot water control from Hubitat
I would also greatly appreciate hot water support on Hive. Hive's cloud service is terrible, so I'm currently using Hive through HomeKit, but that also doesn't support the Hot Water end of things.
I've noticed the Hive Receiver seems very chatty on the Zigbee network (the next busiest device down from this list has 1500 messages (a motion sensor that's triggers numerous times over the day) - is there any way to reduce the number of times it's sending messages over the Zigbee network (or is this even an issue) please?
On various devices the driver can attempt to set a reporting interval; whether the device listens to what you tell it to do is another matter. But I wouldn't toy with the reporting intervals of this gear as the Thermostat and Receiver need to talk to one another reliably, and do so even without a hub being present. And the other reason I wouldn't toy with it is...
@birdslikewires sorry to be annoying you, but have you had a chance to look at the hot water functionality?
I'd like to switch to Hubitat control, but I regularly use my phone to boost the hot water so swapping to use the driver and then having to use the physical thermostat to turn on the hot water would be a pain.
Saying that I'd really like to use the many great features of Hubitat for my heating
I'm afraid that I've not had time to look at any Hubitat stuff recently. I'm tapping away at this keyboard all day for work, so tapping away longer on an evening (even for stuff I'm interested in) takes a degree of motivation which escapes me for the moment!
