@bill maybe you can get a hold of that guy who makes antennae's? @lewis.heidrick I think? I remember reading he was taking haitus but maybe a well spoken beg...
Or do what I did and just go zigbee and be done. shrugs
Ah, so it is a hubitat flaw then? Weak antenna.
Post a copy of your z-wave details page. You could also maybe throw a beaming repeater outside the closet. That said depending on the setup of things you may have created a bit of a Faraday cage effect in the closet. If so then @lewis.heidrick 's antenna mod would be of big benefit to you
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If you are moving your HE to pair them, then the mesh routes will be incorrect and of course it might not work when you put the HE back. I'm not sure how long you would need to wait for the mesh to repair its self and correct routes, but maybe a manual zwave repair would fix it?
Me too.
Both of those are identical to any generic Zwave hub. It isn't a Hubitat tool, it is one from Zwave itself. So if you want to blame someone, blame Silabs the owner of Zwave for that and many other Zwave issues.
A repair on an individual device tells that device to go out and look for better routes back to the hub. A full repair does the same for all devices. In theory, these are not necessary for Zwave plus.
That chart tells you whether a device sees the hub, and if the hub sees a device. I can't recall which axis is which, but the more blue you see, the better. Blue indicates devices are talking to each other. [2.2.4.xxx] Help understanding "Z-Wave Topology" map
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I have 2 zwave and two ZigBee antennas remaing if you wanted me to mod the hub for you.
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I don't think I would characterize it as a flaw... I would say instead in some circumstances with some installations a higher gain external antenna is effective at resolving issues.
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That's a great question. If the problem was with the hub, the other devices wouldn't work either. I would reach out to the manufacturer of those two devices, or just replace them if you don't want to go through the hassle of chasing their support.
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I'm sending off my extra hub to get the antenna mod for giggles. I have a big house but don't have any mesh issues, just want to do it for the lolz...lol
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Yeah I got one of them working by pairing directly. Then the mesh healed itself overnight, so 1 down. One jasco/ge switch is still not working. I got it to pair by bringing the hub over next to it yesterday but even that isn't working now.
This whole failure seems to have been triggered by, what my energy monitor seems to think was a voltage dip a couple of nights ago. Whatever it was was bad enough to hang my linux media pc at the same time these devices went offline. My operating theory now is whatever happened fried the brains of this one switch. Ordered a replacement and we'll see. Weird that it worked enough to pair once next to the hub yesterday though....
I've been there more than once. Z-Wave is less forgiving than other protocols, when not all nodes in the mesh are working properly. One is enough to cause latency. Two or more can bring down the radio to its knees.
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zigbee is not the answer, they both, for me, randomly crash, zero changes to rules or devices.
All this radio "magic" who knows what affects it...the sun, the moon, the neighbor's wifi, the earth, someone standing in a certain position, the garage remote, aluminum siding
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Hi lewis- I appreciate the offer but I can't really be without it for the downtime. I may grab the necessary parts and do it myself at some point.
Generally my setup has been working well for 6-8mo since I managed to get rid of the one ghost zwave device I had, which is why this sudden flareup was so consternating.
My solution to far-flug zwave devices has been to just pair them to my old c4 hub in the garage and share them via mesh. That's worked well so far.
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Lutron Caseta... 
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Yes, I remember my C-5 suffering terribly when I created a bunch of stranded devices. But since then, I have had no z-wave complaints. And my mesh is antiquated by most standards. Out of 60 devices, less than half (28) are z-wave+. I even have a 100-series z-wave device on there. Maybe I'm just lucky!
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I am surprised that works.... What is it?
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Really old Leviton appliance module.
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HEM v1 power monitor in my case, which AFAIK is 100 series...still chugging along.
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Same here. Like @aaiyar my HEM is the last 100 series device in my mesh that's still kicking. But devices can go bad and will. I had plenty of GE older and new that have gone bad and when that happens I just pop them out and replace them immediately.
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