That helped...so did:
for the windows drivers!!! This worked MUCH better for me....I'm feeling pretty good...except for 1 little thing.
My HE hub shows a device:
003 (03) Kitchen Lights
Of which on the zwave stick...there is no.... 003
Yet this device is working...but it makes me wary...as in...maybe I should just remove and re-include it...knowing there are issue.