Z wave devices

[SteveP]

I am new to this... all my devices are z-wave. below is snippet of my Rules Machine code when I turn on switch to trigger routine to set up for sleep time

it seems it isn't real consistent.

my question from you with experience, should i be having multiple steps turning stuff on/off. it seems that it takes a few seconds for Everything Group to actually turn all off. does it wait after executing the Off:Everything Off, or send out command and go on to the next one maybe causing confusion??

[rlithgow1]

Can you post a copy of your z-wave details page in it's entirety?

What you are describing though is popcorning. You should create a group in Room Lighting with the specific lights you want on and off then use an activator to run the RL rule. That would probably cut down on a lot of that.

[SteveP]

thanks. i am new so don't shoot...

my thought was having 50 say devices to just turn everything off to a known state then turn back on the few that I want on at that time.

[SteveP]

if I have a group of lights dimmable, i have to dim the whole group to the same level correct?

i have noticed that setting some lights to 40% might be equivalent to 20% on another bulb/switch
so i am thinking that having a group then dimming to same level would be a problem?

[rlithgow1]

Your mesh looks good... At this point Room Lighting is your best bet., See this link here

How to use Room Lights for Groups

There seems to be a fair amount of confusion about how to set up a group in Room Lights. Before getting to that, let's define what a 'group' is: A group is a set of lights that should all respond identically to an activation device. By turning on the activation device, all of them should turn on. By turning it off, all should turn off. By setting it to blue, they should all be set to blue. For Room Lights to have a group, we first need to select the group member devices in the pull down for…

[SteveP]

thanks

i am sure I will be back later

[SteveP]

always learning something new. added Room Lights
set up a group

then into rule machine to i though would be a way to activate it but not sure how that works
what do I select to get list of Room Lights to activate?

[rlithgow1]

Use Room Lighting, it will be easier. Use a mode or a virtual switch to activate.

[SteveP]

sorry you lost me with last reply.

I went into Room Lighting and set up the lights how I want them and named it

I have a Virtual Button that I activate and rule machine activates a script

i don't see how in Room Lighting I can activate the scene or in Rule Machine how to activate the room lighting scene

sorry for being dense

[rlithgow1]

Sorry, I misunderstood. At this point yes, in rule machine you can create your rule to activate the virtual switch that activates the RL

[SteveP]

we are close but not there yet...

i can't figure out how the virtual switch activates the RL

i don't see ability in Rule Machine for an action to activate RL

[SteveP]

in Rule Machine i don't see action to do the RL

[rlithgow1]

The action is the trigger; the run turns on the virtual switch or other activator you set

[SteveP]

I think i found this in RL below,
i didn't find a way to activate the RL in Rules Machine though

[FriedCheese2006]

In RL, you create an activator device (which I see you already have). In RM, you turn on (or off) the activator device.

[SteveP]

can I do the turning on/off in the Rule Machine without activator?

[FriedCheese2006]

Not directly. You can either use the activator device or you can create a virtual device, use that in RM, and set it as an optional "means to activate."

[SteveP]

I have done this in Rule Machine. i would think this will work ???

thanks

[FriedCheese2006]

Assuming that "Bed Time Lights RL" is either the activator device or a virtual device that's been added to the RL instance as a "means to activate", then yeah.

[SteveP]

this??