Thanks for the clarification.
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Bottom line, look for the matter logo and you're set.
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Hi to all,
As long as Hubitat will not issue an official commitment to Thread and Matter, I will stay with my two C7 Hubs.
For me Matter matters.
I had the chance to see one of my colleagues Smart Home working with a bunch of Matter devices. He confirmed that the start was complicated, but mainly due to 2 facts.
He didn't capture that thread is not Wifi an was not able to connect devices to his old hub. Second the first releases from the manufacturers were buggy but got better with firmware updates.
His actual system works well and the interaction between devices and hubs is great.
So I still wait for an official announcement from Hubitat and if it takes too long, I may also switch over to another system as Matter is the future.
It has been publicly announced that Matter is currently being beta tested (many community members are testing it, and you can join if you want).
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To be fair I did spend a reasonable amount of time trying to find what I thought was a publicly available teaser that Matter was coming, but could not find anything more than passing references to it. but nothing concrete that was easily available. That said... the title of this topic does give it away... but again, not officially.
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There has been no commitment to Thread. However, as noted by @bertabcd1234, Matter is actively being beta-tested. And Hubitat staff have commented on upcoming Matter support in the non-beta sections of the Hubitat community.
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Here you go 
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I was about to post that exact beta testing call out! 
I knew I'd seen it somewhere... thanks @marktheknife
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Ok, thank you for that info. As said, I will not buy a new C8 until Matter is officially released and in that post there is no roadmap.
On the other hand, I completely understand that thread is a radio signal while matter is a software layer, but most Matter certified devices use thread. So what is the Hubitat solution if their brand-new hub can't do thread ?
Maybe I'm wrong but I think that a Matter and Thread enabled router can hand over the device to any Matter enabled hub. So, a statement about thread compatibility and about recommended solutions would be great, Also a roadmap for a C8 rev.2 or a C9 supporting thread could calm users.
Thread is a protocol not a signal, while matter is more of a framework. Matter rides on both thread or wifi. Both matter and thread run on ipv6
No... It has to be a commissioner... So essentially homekit, echo, and google are commissioners... They are also border routers. Things like Nanoleaf panels are thread
routers but they can't route matter over wifi nor commission them to a network.
No one is upset. When the c8 came out it was announced that thread would be available later in the year in their adcopy. It was announced several months ago that matter is in beta... If you would like to try matter, you can get a c8 and join the beta.
There is also not going to be a c9 for the forseeable future probably for 2 reasons. Right now there is no 900 series z-wave chip, and they only just released the c8 this years and they usually go a few years between releases.
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Does that mean that buying a Homepod mini allows the C8 to use devices connected over thread to it to be used, as soon as Matter is released on the C8 ?
Yes.
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Yes as well as matter over wifi... Ebay is full of refurbished homepod mini's that come with a 1 year warranty. Great deals..
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Publicly announced roadmaps are not something we usually see from Hubitat staff.
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The transition to the C8 Pro has been accompanied by significant stress. The lighting system exhibits erratic behaviour, with lights turning on or off at random times, and Shelly devices displaying similar irregularities. The system logs do not provide any explanation for these occurrences, merely indicating instances such as "switch X turned on."
A failure of a Shelly 2.5 device necessitated its replacement with a Shelly 2PM, due to the unavailability of the 2.5 model. It was subsequently discovered that Shelly Plus products are incompatible with Hubitat. This incompatibility is problematic, considering that other systems can accommodate a broader range of devices that Hubitat cannot.
This experience has prompted a reevaluation of our system setup. My spouse lacks technical expertise, and in the event of my absence, she would be unable to manage the system, as few electricians in our region are familiar with Hubitat. Consequently, I have considered the Philips Hue bridge, a system commonly understood by electricians. This setup would allow me to continue utilizing Hubitat for advanced configurations, while providing a contingency for an electrician to reconfigure the existing hardware into a basic setup if necessary. Ideally, I could configure scenes on the Hue bridge and activate them via Hubitat, enabling control through both platforms (although this is currently untested).
The Hue bridge supports Matter; however, Hubitat has provided no substantive information regarding the Matter integration process. While Hubitat asserts compatibility with Matter, there is a lack of documentation specifying which devices are integrated (e.g., binary contacts, TRVs, bulbs) and no clear roadmap for integrating features that are not yet supported.
It is unacceptable for Hubitat to claim Matter support without providing a comprehensive list of integrated Matter drivers and a detailed roadmap for future integrations.
Thank you for your feedback. The advantage of using a standard protocol like Z-Wave, Zigbee and Matter is that Hubitat Elevation supports virtually any device that uses the standard features. Unlike other companies, we don't restrict our customers to use only devices that have been tested by our engineers. Instead, we created generic drivers that allow our customers to integrate various devices. For a complete list of tested devices, including Matter devices, please check out this list (hint - check out the "protocol" column to identify Matter devices): List of Compatible Devices | Hubitat Documentation
As for Matter enhancements, Hubitat doesn't share roadmaps of our ongoing projects, however, I can asure you that Matter integration is an active project, and more features will be added in the near future.
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Why would you need an electrician to use Hue?
Isn’t the system comprised of light bulbs and battery powered switches?
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I am guessing an electrician is the most common "professional" who would understand and be able to assist with a consumer level smart home system. Not sure how prevalent actual smart home contractors are everywhere.
Still not clicking for me, in the case of Hue, I mean. Assist with what?
Screwing and unscrewing Hue bulbs? Or replacing batteries in Hue switches?
Or does the electrician also setup the Hue app, create lighting automations, take phone calls from the client when they are confused about how to create a new automation, etc?
