What’s a budget friendly NAS that can run simple programs

Like pihole and maybe a vpn. I’m looking for a used Synology

Sorry, are you looking for a nas server but also can run pihole and vpn server as well?
If Pihole and VPN server is the end goal then a pi 3 b+ is more than enough. I have this running Pihole, Wireguard VPN server and Minecraft bedrock server with no issue for 6 months now.

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Thanks, but that’s not my “end goal”. I want a nas to run my dvr and back up my I cloud locally. I figured I’d buy one powerful enough to run that stuff as well

What’s your budget? How many TB of storage? You could probably find many used synology or qnap NAS products that meet those basic requirements, so it depends how many drives you need and their sizes.

Realtek RTD1296 Quad Core (Arm Cortex A53)

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-DS220j-Diskless-2-Bay/dp/B0855LMP81/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=synology+ds218&qid=1588426535&sprefix=synolo&sr=8-5

You don’t mention how many bays you’re looking for. This is better than you’ll find used for a 2-Bay Synology.

Maybe $300 diskless

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Realtek RTD1296 Quad Core
[/quote] don’t I need one with docker?

You install docker

https://www.synology.com/en-ca/dsm/packages/Docker

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I use a Synology DS716+ as my small backup nas. My larger one is a self-made Unraid box.

The synology works great, though. Has done fine on both Docker containers and VMs, when I used it for those activities.

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I was going to suggest unraid as well.

I don’t think u can on the j series

Applied Models * 20 series: FS6400, FS3400, RS820RP+, RS820+, DS620slim, SA3600, SA3400, SA3200D

  • 19 series: RS1619xs+, RS1219+, DS2419+, DS1819+, DS1019+, DVA3219
  • 18 series: FS1018, RS3618xs, RS2818RP+, RS2418RP+, RS2418+, RS818RP+, RS818+, DS3018xs, DS1618+, DS918+, DS718+, DS218+
  • 17 series: FS3017, FS2017, RS18017xs+, RS4017xs+, RS3617xs+, RS3617RPxs, RS3617xs, DS3617xs, DS1817+, DS1517+
  • 16 series: RS18016xs+, RS2416RP+, RS2416+, DS916+, DS716+, DS716+II, DS216+, DS216+II
  • 15 series: RS815RP+, RS815+, RC18015xs+, DS3615xs, DS2415+, DS1815+, DS1515+, DS415+
  • 14 series: RS3614xs+, RS3614RPxs, RS3614xs, RS2414RP+, RS2414+, RS814RP+, RS814+
  • 13 series: RS10613xs+, RS3413xs+, DS2413+, DS1813+, DS1513+, DS713+
  • 12 series: RS3412RPxs, RS3412xs, RS2212RP+, RS2212+, RS812RP+, RS812+, DS3612xs, DS1812+, DS1512+, DS712+, DS412+
  • 11 series: RS3411RPxs, RS3411xs, RS2211RP+, RS2211+, DS3611xs, DS2411+, DS1511+, DS411+, DS411+II
  • *10 series: RS810RP+, RS810+, DS1010+, DS710+
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Ah, good catch. Sorry about that. I don't run docker myself, but do install these and larger Synology for clients. Didn't consider that processor wasn't supported. If you look for a NAS with an Intel processor like @JasonJoel has, then you'll have not problem because you can install it manually yourself.

My understanding is that's not supported with all of the ARM based Synology NAS boxes.
Maybe Unraid is for you then. Got an old PC sitting around not pulling its weight?

Yea, but in kinda looking for something quit and fam friendly. I actually might buy the one you recommended. Thank you. Do you know how quite they are. Does the fan only come on during acess? Bedroom friendly

I wouldn't put that one in a bedroom. They're not loud. I suppose it depends on the individual. You can force the fan to low, or set it to auto. Not like a screaming server. Almost inaudible on low, but I sleep light. I have an older DS115 and I keep it downstairs. Late at night when it's really quiet, I do hear the fan, but I wouldn't call it loud at all.

Since it’s on your LAN and can serve content that way, why put it in your bedroom?

Good point

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I don’t want or need much storage. Only maybe 500gb. Do you think I’d see a big difference ssd vs hdd on these?

Honestly, it doesn't make sense to have a NAS with that little capacity. Whether you're a Windows or Mac user, you can store regular backups for the whole family. Connected to your network, backups become automated. Also accessible via WiFi for carefree wireless backups.

My Synology is a single bay with a 2 terabyte drive. That's just enough for music, my computer, my wife's, my son's and the MacBook Pro that hosts my node.js server for Homebridge, etc. A single drive isn't fault tolerant, but the DS115 had an eSATA port, so I have do a backup of the internal drive to an external 2TB drive every morning. Synology has that backup software available for free.

The dual bay are even better because it will mirror your data automatically, plus you can have a backup to an externally connected USB 3.0 drive that you can keep in a fireproof safe or keep it offsite for theft and fire protection. All the Synology DSM also connect to many cloud services, included Amazon S3 for cheap cold storage. I use mine to sync with OneDrive for photo backups. Our phones automatically backup to OneDrive, Synology pulls them down automatically to the local drive, backs that up to the external drive, plus send them up to Google Drive for added protection. Photos are important and cannot be replaced.

You need to be the judge of your storage needs, but I always recommend you have the capacity to backup each computer a minimum of four times before the backup software need to purge old backups to save space. I typically recommend a minimum of two 3TB WD RED drives for the dual bay models. The average user will fill that half-way in the first two years they own it in my experience.

For Macs, you can use the built-in Time Machine software for wired or wireless backups of laptops. For Windows, use Acronis True Image.

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Specifically to this question, you should know that when an SSD dies, it's gone. Spinning disks are often forgiving and you can recover at least something from them, if not all when they fail. SSD, it's just gone. For this reason, they are fantastic for speedy storage on your computer, but for backup, I highly recommend WD RED that are designed for long life on a NAS. There are other choices, but you're not running a datacenter.

Backup is very important. It's not a question of if your drive will fail, just when. It is even more important that Solid State Drives are backed up frequently.

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Thx, we don’t even own a pc. Well we have 1. Our house hold strictly uses iPads. My nas need would to save 3-4 games for emulation and our photos