We finally have a smart outlet that is slim!

That isn’t the issue, buying uncertified mains powered equipment direct from China is a great way to burn your house down!

Btw, you can tell it’s Chinese spec by the upside down (compared to Australian) socket pictures - I’m not joking.

Unless they’ve gone through the process to get certified, it’s illegal to plug those into your wall sockets.

The units I bought from SmartHome.com.au are fully approved and complaint with AUS / NZ regulations and electric safety.

Ps, these work great!

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You can't expect a device sold at this price to have a true certification ...


The cost of obtaining electrical safety certification in Australia varies based on the type of equipment, the certification body, and the specific requirements of the certification. Here's a general overview:

1. Certification Fees:

  • SAA Approvals: A recognized certification body, SAA Approvals, charges the following fees:
    • Application for a new certificate: AUD 700.00 + GST (total AUD 770.00)
    • Renewal of an existing certificate: AUD 700.00 + GST (total AUD 770.00)
    • Technical modification: AUD 550.00 + GST (total AUD 605.00)
    • Administrative modification (non-technical changes): AUD 350.00 + GST (total AUD 385.00)
    • Certificate corrections or changes: AUD 150.00 + GST (total AUD 165.00)
    • Transfer of certificate to another company: AUD 350.00 + GST (total AUD 385.00)
    • Extension to certificate (Non-Declared): AUD 650.00 + GST (total AUD 715.00)
    • Extension to certificate (Declared): AUD 650.00 + GST (total AUD 715.00)
    • Hourly rate for additional services: AUD 350.00 + GST (total AUD 385.00)
    • Priority service: Price on application
    • EMC Certificate: AUD 1,000.00 + GST (total AUD 1,100.00)
    • Radio Frequency Device Certification: AUD 1,400.00 + GST (total AUD 1,540.00)
    • Photovoltaic (PV) Inverters, Battery Energy Storage Systems, and associated equipment: AUD 5,000.00 + GST (total AUD 5,500.00)

SAA Approvals

2. Registration Fees:

  • Electrical Equipment Safety System (EESS): For registering as a Responsible Supplier and for in-scope electrical equipment, the fees are:
    • Registration as a Responsible Supplier: AUD 224.30 per year
    • Registration of in-scope electrical equipment (Level 2 or 3):
      • 1 year: AUD 84.06
      • 2 years: AUD 168.12
      • 5 years: AUD 420.29

EESS

3. Additional Considerations:

  • Testing Costs: Before certification, products must undergo testing to ensure compliance with Australian standards. The cost of testing varies depending on the complexity of the product and the laboratory fees.
  • Consultancy Fees: Engaging consultants to assist with the certification process may incur additional costs.
  • Timeframes: Standard processing times can vary, with some certifiers offering priority services at an additional cost.

It's essential to consult directly with the relevant certification bodies or regulatory authorities to obtain accurate and up-to-date information tailored to your specific product and circumstances.

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Does it involve poking it with pins of some description? :rofl: :rofl:

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There are literally 100s and 100s of these things sold on ebay. If anything goes haywire it will the be the seller who cops it not the buyer. Esp. when these ads have Au seller/Au stock plastered all over them.

It is no different to say someone/tourist plugging in a 100-240v phone charger that came from OS.

Hard wired switches and GPOs etc is another thing altogether and need to be compliant.

Exactly! Likely doesn’t comply with even Chinese regs, if they even have them…

There are Electrical Safety standards in China, indeed. They are probably less strict than those in the rest of the world.

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They are putting themselves and their customers at serious legal risk at a minimum. Most house fires are started by electrical faults, including cheap garbage bought online,

Electronics purchased online

Authorities said consumers should ensure they bought electrical goods which were approved by Australian safety standards.

"Keep away from online stores because you can't guarantee that the equipment is okay — you don't know what it is. It could be fake or it might not meet Australian safety standards." Mr Bunko said.

So what do you intend to use the plugs for?

I needed to replace a zwave outlet that died, replace the chunky units in the laundry, and I want some for my CNC machine and accessories.

I use power monitoring to tell me when my CNC is done and to turn on/off dust collection etc.

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I won't say I have followed this advice personally, but I believe there can be "concerns" about putting outlets like these in between certain types of appliances like washing machines or dryers, based on some electrical jargon that I don't fully understand... I think Inductive could have been one of the terms.... Depending on your use-case, it may not be an issue, but something to bear in mind when starting with a new outlet model, if nothing else.

These Zigbee outlets use physical relays for on/off so there’s no issue with different load types. I mainly use them for power monitoring.

This app is great, we use it to announce when the laundry machines are finished.

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Yep, exactly what I do too. I also use my Kasa's to manage charging my tablet I have sitting in a side table.

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@dJOS
Just a quick note of thanks for the heads up on these ZigBee wall plugs from smart home
Got 3 for the price of 2 @ $65.00 including delivery.. using these to replace Aeon tech zwave 6 wall plug which irregular drop off from my network
And my thanks also to @kkossev for yet another excellent driver with this tuya ZigBee metering plug installed without the need of
Vodou Double Luck Spell

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Derek, I'm just tired of all the plug body shaming going on here. I bet most of you aren't slim... :wink:

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I’ve had a bunch of these start falling to.

I love that they give a bigger discounts for buying more, it definitely helps bring the overall cost down.

I’m in great shape, thank you, round! :rofl:

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I just bought a couple of these ZigBee plugs from SmartHome. They paired with the ZigBee Plug with Metering driver but I couldn’t get them to instantly report power. The power only updated at the polling frequency rate I set. I have a plug load that only comes on for about 5 seconds at a time and I’m trying to detect these load changes.
I swapped to the inbuilt Generic ZigBee Plug driver and it does report power changes in real time. The question I have is that the power reporting on the inbuilt driver seems to be out by a factor of 10. Ie. 50W load only reports 5W. Has anyone using these plugs found the same issue?

Try the excellent "Tuya Zigbee Metering Plug" driver @kkossev - it's available via HPM.

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Thank you so much for the quick response. I took your advice and swapped to the driver you recommend. You are right it is an excellent driver. All working as I needed now with these ZigBee smart plugs reporting promptly and with the correct power values.

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no worries. :+1: