Unknown Z-wave devices

My ecolink firefighter (the only battery device I have) shows OK every time I look. I've never seen it NOT shows as OK.

So not ALL, not ALWAYS. :slight_smile:

Regardless, though, I see your point and frustration. :frowning:

Shut down the Hub, left it off for 15 minutes. Started it back up and the stuff that is currently added seems to work okay.

Node Status Clusters Device Security Route
0x01 (001) OK in: , out: S2 Access Control
0x13 (019) FAILED in: , out: None
0x1A (026) NOT_RESPONDING in: , out: None
0x2E (046) OK in: , out: None
0x2A (042) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Office Overhead None 01 -> 06 -> 0A -> 2A 100kbps
0x1B (027) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: CHILD1 Overhead None 01 -> 06 -> 0B -> 1B 100kbps
0x0B (011) OK in: 0x5E, 0x25, 0x85, 0x59, 0x86, 0x72, 0x55, 0x5A, 0x73, 0x5B, 0x9F, 0x6C, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x22, 0x7A, out: Kitchen Cabinet None 01 -> 06 -> 0B 100kbps
0x2D (045) OK in: 0x5E, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x56, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: CHILD1 Fan None 01 -> 06 -> 0F -> 2D 40kbps
0x11 (017) OK in: 0x25, 0x27, 0x73, 0x70, 0x86, 0x72, 0x77, out: Garage Outside None 01 -> 06 -> 11 40kbps
0x15 (021) OK in: 0x5E, 0x25, 0x85, 0x59, 0x86, 0x72, 0x55, 0x5A, 0x73, 0x5B, 0x9F, 0x6C, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x22, 0x7A, out: Entry Light None 01 -> 06 -> 16 -> 15 40kbps
0x16 (022) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: CHILD2 Overhead None 01 -> 06 -> 16 100kbps
0x18 (024) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Generic Z-Wave Smart Dimmer None 01 -> 06 -> 18 40kbps
0x24 (036) OK in: 0x72, 0x86, 0x98, out: Back Door S0 01 -> 06 -> 24 40kbps
0x2C (044) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Master Overhead New None 01 -> 06 -> 2C 40kbps
0x06 (006) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x25, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Kitchen Overhead None 01 -> 06 100kbps
0x07 (007) OK in: 0x25, 0x27, 0x73, 0x70, 0x86, 0x72, 0x77, out: Pantry Switch None 01 -> 07 40kbps
0x09 (009) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Living Room Fan None 01 -> 09 40kbps
0x0A (010) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Living Room Fireplace None 01 -> 0A 100kbps
0x0C (012) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Kitchen Bar None 01 -> 0C 100kbps
0x26 (038) OK in: 0x5E, 0x5A, 0x72, 0x73, 0x98, out: Garage Right S0 01 -> 0F -> 26 9.6kbps
0x0F (015) OK in: 0x5E, 0x25, 0x85, 0x59, 0x86, 0x72, 0x55, 0x5A, 0x73, 0x5B, 0x9F, 0x6C, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x22, 0x7A, out: Laundry Overhead None 01 -> 0F 100kbps
0x12 (018) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Dining Overhead None 01 -> 12 100kbps
0x25 (037) OK in: 0x5E, 0x5A, 0x72, 0x73, 0x98, out: Garage Left S0 01 -> 14 -> 26 -> 1D -> 25 9.6kbps
0x14 (020) OK in: 0x5E, 0x25, 0x85, 0x59, 0x86, 0x72, 0x55, 0x5A, 0x73, 0x5B, 0x9F, 0x6C, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x22, 0x7A, out: Front Porch None 01 -> 14 100kbps
0x17 (023) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: CHILD2 Fan None 01 -> 17 100kbps
0x21 (033) OK in: 0x72, 0x86, 0x98, out: Front Door S0 01 -> 21 40kbps
0x1D (029) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Bonus Entry None 01 -> 26 -> 1D 100kbps
0x27 (039) OK in: 0x5E, 0x56, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Living Room. None 01 -> 27 100kbps
0x29 (041) OK in: 0x5E, 0x86, 0x72, 0x5A, 0x85, 0x59, 0x73, 0x26, 0x27, 0x70, 0x56, 0x2C, 0x2B, 0x7A, out: Master Fan None 01 -> 29 100kbps

I'm going to let it rest overnight before trying to add back any of the devices that are not on there.

The only zwave devices I have that are battery operated are the Kwikset locks they seem to be fine. I still have some devices I need to exclude / remove. I will try to remove them again in the morning.

I bought the Hubitat with the hopes of using my programming skills to build some cool integrations. Right now I'm hoping I can turn lights off and on and lock the doors.

Man's reach should exceed his grasp. Dream your big dreams, little one.

:wink:

Thanks for the update, appreciate it. My "ghost" has persisted over multiple reboots and at least one (maybe two) FW updates. It is the most powerful protoplasm I've ever seen. :slight_smile:

Seriously, I'd like it sent to the Ghostbusters Containment Unit so I don't have to wonder/worry if it's part of the reason for my continuing automation/button>switch reliability issues.

If you'd like me to test your particle thrower on my ghost, just give me a holler. :slight_smile:

Apparently! I'll stick to developing Applications in SOLIDWORKS! :stuck_out_tongue:

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Ok things have finally stabilized and I put in the 2.2.3.135 update and it seems to be working well. I still have two zombie devices pointing to A5 that I can't remove but everything else is working. Garage doors, locks, fans, dimmers, switches, motion sensors, contact switches, rachio sprinklers, and hue lights.

I like the zwave route and speed display. This helps me see where issues are in the mesh.

Quick question, if I buy some zwave extenders for the areas with sub 40kb speed will it really make these devices more reliable and stable?

I also have several routes showing the mysterious "A5" in the middle of the path. Otherwise things seem to be working

A z stick will help clean up those zombie devices. Good investment if you have a lot of z-wave devices. My A5 references cleared up when I got rid of the zombies.

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Yeah, my UZB stick shows up in a couple days and @lewis.heidrick has generously offered to fly in an fix up my Zwave mesh. You guys should ask him too, it's a great service, and all he wants in return is:

  • Cheetos
  • Craft Beer
  • Jalapeno Poppers

And maybe a place to sleep for a day or two if this hurricane eats my house.

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Yikes! For some reason I find hurricanes much scarier than earthquakes (which are the local scary event here in SoCal). My son is in NC now, and his comment was "At least I can see the hurricane coming." :slight_smile: Be safe!

Went through 2 earthquakes in California but I slept through both. Thought someone ransacked my house since the front door was wide open. A five or less I'd rather an earthquake but a 7 or 8 would be scarey.

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All the best man. Re The Hurricane.
I Had a Tropical Cyclone pass right over the house I was in, a few years back when in Fiji.
Terrifying ! All we could was ride it out.

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I have an Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5. How and what software would I use to remove the zombies?

Silabs PC controller v5. Pair the controller to your he hub and then use the software to find the zombies by comparing the node ID's. Then delete them from the PC software and they go away.

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Care to elaborate on the steps to use PC controller to find the zombies? when I pair my stick with the hub, I get the same list of devices the hub can see. Are you saying the stick can pick up devices that aren't in the list?

Did you read that already?

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What I've seen a lot of lately are devices that appear like your device node 0x01 (001) which is the hub but has a different device id such as 0x10 (016) with just in:, out: in the clusters and nothing in the device name/label. These are failed inclusions which cause all the mesh busy errors and you can delete them in the PC Controller software which will remove them from the Z-Wave Radio (Z-Wave Details) list on Hubitat. You may also come across devices that don't show up on the Z-Wave Details page. I had a couple of both when I first checked and deleted them. That cleared up all the busy messages for me. The ones that weren't in the Z-wave Details list I think said notification device in the PC Controller software but I think it puts that in there for all the battery devices. I could tell by comparing the Node ID's which to delete.

@lewis.heidrick, I am using the Silicon Labs Z-Wave PC Controller with an Aeotec Gen5 USB Z-Wave stick. I can see one of my phantom nodes (node 6), but do not know how to delete it. Any advice on how to delete this would be appreciated.

Node 6 does not show up in my Hubitat "Devices List", but does show up in "Z-wave details".

I do not see 0xa5 in the Silicon Labs software or anywhere in Hubitat, except it is listed as part of a route for node 6.

The Silicon Labs software also shows virtual nodes 2, 3, 4, and 5 that do not seem to appear anywhere in Hubitat - but I have no idea how to remove them either.

That is as expected / designed. Ignore those / don't remove them.

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