Thoughts on router manuf. ban for the usa

Are you referring to the FCC router ban (and its questionable intent) or the community's reaction to it?

It seems reasonable that an ill-conceived action of dubious intent will result in reactions that verge on the ludicrous.

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Both, but mostly the latter.

As in insanity begets insanity? :crazy_face: Perhaps, yes,

The Technology Policy Institute, a US think tank, flagged the issue on Friday, writing: β€œThe ban creates the very vulnerability it claims to address.”

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Seems like this was a remarkably boneheaded decision.

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Which is exactly why I'm suspicious that the actual reason for the ban is NOT what they are stating publicly.

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The last paragraph in the writing is interesting, to say the least:

"Congress should pay attention. The Secure Networks Act created a mechanism that, when
combined with sweeping executive branch determinations and an FCC willing to implement
them without deliberation, allows the President to ban entire categories of consumer technology without notice, without comment, without cost-benefit analysis, and without any of the procedural safeguards that normally govern consequential regulatory action. If Congress intended the Covered List to be used this way, it should say so. If it didn't, it should act before the next product category lands on the list."

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I mean, phones have radios and are made in foreign countries.....

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Mostly one country.

Now that we have successfully changed Venezuela from a miserable socialist repressive state into a flowering democracy with β€œour” oil, and are on the verge of converting a repressive theocracy into a beautiful gem where justice flows like running waters (through the Straits of Hormuz), I would recommend we next aim to take over Shenzen. It would make a fine 51st state. Even better, most routers and cell phones will once again be American-made.

Phew - crisis averted!

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land of the free slaves, try living without paying your property, income, gas,phone bill, state or auto tax. You'll find out how "free" we are. Anyway we do have it better than most, at least that's what my TV tells me

Usually when people don’t pay bills, there are consequences.

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Only depends on what corrupted politically polarized TV channel you watch. Start watching foreign TV channels that see the US from the outside in and you might have a big reality check. From outside the US it's starting to look a lot more different than the place I was taking most of my vacations to just a few years back, won't name other countries that look like where the US is heading inch by inch, but do a little research and you'll figure it out, I'll just say that most of them are suppose to be your enemies.

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Humans have advanced BECAUSE we are social creatures that work together.

That makes "paying bills" a requirement as that's how your contributions to society are shared with others. And, that includes the more fortunate helping those who are less fortunate.

We aren't solitary creatures and nothing we have today would have been possible without tens of thousands of years of working together, with everyone paying their bills.

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We've been on the "oligarchy" path for several decades.

We're now very much a corrupt oligarchy, with the wealthy controlling most of what happens--and the current administration making billions as a result.

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While you still can.

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Looks like Netgear got conditional approval for some of their routers (Nighthawk and Orbi). Adtran did as well.

https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist

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