Thoughts on new user interface

[rlithgow1]

@velvetfoot

Generally, if they'd keep a way to switch back to legacy versions, it would be nice.

Well you can always revert to a time there was no ez-dashboard and not worry about any other UI changes.

[velvetfoot]

I do not use ez-dashboards. That is a choice.

@rlithgow1

Well you can always revert to a time there was no ez-dashboard and not worry about any other UI changes.

[bobbyD]

@bill.d

really hope is that all the added excess white space gets removed from the system administration

Be sure to provide feedback in the Beta section.

[rlithgow1]

Right but you would have your dashboards and interface the way you want. The point is no one forces you to upgrade, you can simply keep things the way you want it.

[velvetfoot]

You don't like a comment so you move it to Lounge.

Color me unexcited.

I'm thinking you need some focus groups of ordinary users...a good cross section, rather than just listening to a vocal minority.

[bill.d]

@bobbyD

Be sure to provide feedback in the Beta section.

I already have. I don't know how you guys keep track of all the feedback as so much gets buried in meandering threads.

[rlithgow1]

@bill.d

I already have. I don't know how you guys keep track of all the feedback as so much gets buried in meandering threads.

They really do keep track...

[bobbyD]

@velvetfoot

don't like a comment so you move it to Lounge.

Is not that I don't like the comment, but it is off topic, so I thought that moving it in the lounge would be more reasonable than flagging it and removing it, don't you agree?

Oh, why is off topic, you might ask... It's because it provides feedback on a beta release without even seeing the changes. You are more than welcome to join the beta and provide feedback specific to upcoming changes, or wait until the changes are public. I am sure the changes will trigger lots of feedback from all users once the next version is released.

@Hubitat_Staff

Rather than taking an existing topic in a radically different direction, use Reply as a Linked Topic.

[marktheknife]

@velvetfoot

You don't like a comment so you move it to Lounge.

I can’t get inside Bobby’s head, but all this was moved to the lounge after you determined you were unable to respond constructively to me.

It probably could’ve just been a discussion in the same thread he originally created.

If you don’t like me or my opinion, consider engaging in a discussion nonetheless, rather than fall back on ad hominem attacks.

[velvetfoot]

@marktheknife

I can’t get inside Bobby’s head, but all this was moved to the lounge after you determined you were unable to respond constructively to me.

It probably could’ve just been a discussion in the same thread he originally created.

If you don’t like me or my opinion, consider engaging in a discussion nonetheless, rather than fall back on ad hominem attacks.

There you go again.

[bill.d]

@rlithgow1

They really do keep track...

I believe it. That's just a lot of work scanning threads to separate wheat from chaff.

[marktheknife]

OK sure.

So the crux of what you’re asking for now is a toggle to allow for older UI elements to remain, rather than defaulting to the new UI?

The new UI is coming in one form or another.

[rlithgow1]

@marktheknife

The new UI is coming in one form or another.

Why I mentioned he can stay where he is as he isn't forced to upgrade. One of the benifits of HE

[velvetfoot]

@rlithgow1

Why I mentioned he can stay where he is as he isn't forced to upgrade. One of the benifits of HE

Stay on some old version? Yeah that's a recipe for success.
Easy Dashboard is a choice, not a requirement.

[marktheknife]

I agree that staying on an older version isn’t a good solution. You miss out on any new features in subsequent platform upgrades.

But this is literally one of the most common/recurring criticisms of Hubitat as a platform that gets mentioned here, or on YouTube, etc. The UI is old and clunky.

So what is the reasonable alternative?

I have some fond memories of Windows 3.1’s graphic UI. But I don’t still expect Windows to look like that today.

[joshlobe]

@velvetfoot

But it doesn't...for me.

Sorry to nitpick.. but I want to understand what happens when you click that button.
Here is the screen that loads after I click the button:

[joshlobe]

Yep.. I'm here now, @velvetfoot
My mistake.. lol.
Let's continue here.
I deleted my post in the other thread.

[velvetfoot]

Wrong thread, lol.

Pushing one of those dashboard links gets rid of the panel.
I only have one dashboard.
All I get is this:

[velvetfoot]

I responded there.
Should arrive here momentarily, lol.

[JB_TX]

@bobbyD

You don't know what you're missing out, but hey, everyone has something in it. Here is one you'll probably use...a lot:

What's supposed to be good about this? Somebody explain to me how this is 'better' than what is currently available in production.

Here is what I see:

Pro: Colors are more 'sleek.'
Pro: Having a 'switch' for device control.
Pro: Having some white space (separation) for the buttons (like 'Configure') (Also see corresponding con)

Con: 5 'tabs' (panes? Commands, Preferences, Device Info, etc.) to click on as opposed to one page of info.
Con: Having the details screen be a popover (pardon me if that's the wrong word). I'm sure it's doable in the new UI, but I like comparing devices in separate windows. Between this and the tabs, that's either going to be harder or, at the least, more clicks to get there.
Con: Way too much whitespace. I think the whitespace is for mobile device use(?), but I can't see how even the thickest and clumsiest fingers need this much space.

I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that zero new information/data/fields has been added, and we've gone from one page of information to 5 tabs in a popover window, that if made into a single page would be 2 or 3 times larger than the old way. Yes, it's 'pretty,' but I look at 'pretty,' I don't use 'pretty.'