ThirdReality power plugs - is this chatty?

I have ThirdReality power plugs in a few places in my home, mainly for repeater. Randomly checked logs and noticed this:

dev:242023-12-29 07:35:01.936 PMinfoKitchen plug is off [physical]
dev:222023-12-29 07:34:51.833 PMinfoUpstairs hallway plug is off [physical]
dev:232023-12-29 07:32:56.031 PMinfoGarage Ceiling Plug is on [physical]
dev:242023-12-29 07:32:01.928 PMinfoKitchen plug is off [physical]
dev:222023-12-29 07:31:51.825 PMinfoUpstairs hallway plug is off [physical]
dev:232023-12-29 07:29:56.036 PMinfoGarage Ceiling Plug is on [physical]
dev:242023-12-29 07:29:01.926 PMinfoKitchen plug is off [physical]
dev:222023-12-29 07:28:51.829 PMinfoUpstairs hallway plug is off [physical]
dev:232023-12-29 07:26:56.022 PMinfoGarage Ceiling Plug is on [physical]
dev:242023-12-29 07:26:01.924 PMinfoKitchen plug is off [physical]
dev:222023-12-29 07:25:51.814 PMinfoUpstairs hallway plug is off [physical]
dev:232023-12-29 07:23:56.027 PMinfoGarage Ceiling Plug is on [physical]
dev:242023-12-29 07:23:01.922 PMinfoKitchen plug is off [physical]
dev:222023-12-29 07:22:51.861 PMinfoUpstairs hallway plug is off [physical]
dev:232023-12-29 07:20:56.018 PMinfoGarage Ceiling Plug is on [physical]
dev:242023-12-29 07:20:01.920 PMinfoKitchen plug is off [physical]
dev:222023-12-29 07:19:51.821 PMinfoUpstairs hallway plug is off [physical]

Is this a problem? I don't quite understand why they're reporting as frequently as they are. Any way to change this?

What type of plug is it and what firmware is it using ? Look for model and firmwareMT in the data section of the driver page:

Are you using the built-in "Generic Zigbee Outlet" driver ?

It's just their plug before they had a power monitoring plug.

Garage:

endpointId: 01
application: 13
manufacturer: Third Reality, Inc
model: 3RSP019BZ
powerCluster: none

Upstairs hallway:

endpointId: 01
application: 13
manufacturer: Third Reality, Inc
model: 3RSP019BZ
powerCluster: none

Kitchen:

endpointId: 01
application: 13
firmwareMT: 1233-D3A6-10013001
manufacturer: Third Reality, Inc
model: 3RSP019BZ
powerCluster: none
softwareBuild: 10013001

Interestingly, I also have anotehr one that ISN'T showing up in the logs like the others?
My office computer plug

endpointId: 01
application: 13
manufacturer: Third Reality, Inc
model: 3RSP019BZ
powerCluster: none

All are generic zigbee outlet

I have some of those too.

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The firmware on one of them (10013001) seems out of date, not sure about the others as it's not indicated - newer firmware has been anecdotally "quieter" (expectations vary). I usually have description text logging off on those so I don't notice anymore.

You could try updating one plug to see if it improves the situation for you. To do this, hit the Update Firmware button on the device page. You can track progress on the logs page, under "Hub" (sys:1). Be warned it will cycle power to the load when doing so.

but to answer your question yes thats chatty

Have you tried running a "Configure" (or even a reset and re-pair without deleting it from the hub first) to see if that helps? I can't speak to the firmware update suggested above, but that might change things, too.

It's a bit chatty, but one or two messages every minute or two isn't exactly going to bog down your mesh (but it's still something I'd try to get rid of if I can).

It's one message every 3 minutes, per device, per the logs shared by the OP. The S31s report every 5 minutes. :man_shrugging:

I updated the firmware (successfully) on one of the plugs, but seems it did not affect the reporting frequency at all. Then I noticed the office plug had descriptivetext logging off, so I guess that's why it wasn't showing up! ha

So, yeah... they're all reporting 2-5 minutes. Is that just... what they're gonna do? I don't understand why the device would keep sending the same state :frowning:

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I asked the same question to Mike back in Oct:

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On the latest firmware, the behaviour I get on this model is two or three updates within a minute of a state change, then an update every hour. If this is not what you are seeing, then the Configure and/or reset and re-pair idea mentioned above is worth trying.

The only other brand of Zigbee plug I own is Sonoff S31 Lite, and that model reports its state every 5 minutes no matter what. It is of no consequence AFAIK, and IMO there is no need to have description text logging on for these plugs unless you're debugging something.

Looking on the bright side, if your hub is on a UPS, you can use their over-reporting to detect power outages within 3 minutes ! :wink:

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Seems I was overzealous and the over-reporting has indeed stopped!

Thanks!

Ps does Hubitat have some way to notify you that a device has a new firmware? Even with these plugs I just blindly clicked update firmware had no idea one was actually available?

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Unfortunately no - I think they've sometimes mentioned it in release notes, but it's usually just catching wind of it here in the community or checking yourself once in a while.

got this one for cheap on amazon.. updated firmware and with power reporting off
its ok.
not too bad for the price..

and not overly chattly anymore..