I seem to recall that you had the 6 solid switches upstairs and probably all linked through repeaters. I have a small mobile home and can't get them to stay connected to repeaters. I moved my hub to the far side of my mobile home and they still wind up directly connected. I believe they work much better through a repeater due to wake-up signal strength. Just a WAG.
My hub is in the center of the house. All but one of the switches is within range of the hub. I have never seen one of them connected to the hub. In fact, they were some of the first devices I tried to connect when I switched from ST and were very difficult to get to join. I have 4 of the switches within 10 feet of the hub and they are solid, but I have 2 Samsung plugs in this area as well. One other thing I found that helped, was resetting and rejoining every time a switch didn’t respond on the first press. Some probably took 10 or 15 tries before they were reliable. It seemed to depend on the device they joined through and that’s why I singled out the peanuts as problematic with them.
OK, I'll keep resetting them. Not really a big issue as I kinda got used to double pressing them.
Walmart has them for $18.99.
The two "open box" smarts I ordered off eBay were delivered today, and look brand new - even have the battery pull tab still in place. They started right up, and I was able to include them without any issues. All buttons respond per Device page. Now to figure out how to incorporate them . . . .
Another seller has them going cheap on eBay. I just bought the lot of 4:
I posted in the original Lightify 4-button Switch thread that these work perfectly on my new HE hub that only has end devices and repeaters (no peanut plugs!).
FYI: The seller accepted my $18 offer on the lot of (4) on eBay. So, they seem fairly motivated to move them.
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Check them all - every button push/hold/release. 3 of my 4 are not functional! Guess that explains the cheap price . . .
Contacted the seller, and he immediately issued a full refund without even asking to send any of them back. A gentleman indeed. Even followed up with a phone call. I doubt that there is anything shady going on, and just bad luck.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to check them out asap once they arrive.
Out of curiosity, have you tried re-pairing them? There’s a certain magic sequence that has to go off perfectly for everything to work properly, if I’m remembering correctly. I can’t remember what it caused to not work correctly, but it might be worth a shot.
I found out that wasn't actually the case when all of mine paired without issue to my new HE hub (with no other devices on it when I paired them). They work well with Sylvania and Samsung plugs, definitely not with Peanuts.
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I have 2 Sylvania 74099s in service, so I know the deal.
Nope, these were defective. On the one it would not recognize pushing button #1 - no push, no hold, no release. So therefore was not even possible to do a reset after the initial pairing.
On the other two, the detent/click on button #4 was almost impossible. You had to fiddle with it to click.
So not worth it to mess with them right out of the box . . . .
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Try resetiing it. It fixed that problem for me
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No can do if button 1 is not functional . . . . Every time you push a button, the green led should flash. #1 is just dead . . .
I now have 4 working remotes. I had thought about the symptoms - not clicking, buttons not functional, etc., so I opened one up. The 4 x "push buttons" on the pc board, consists of 4 tiny silver colored hubcap-shaped discs, held in place with thick "tape" over copper tracks. So the "clicking comes from the "hubcap" bulging inwards, which is then supposed to bridge the copper tracks. This was not happening, so I figured it was worth a shot in pulling the thick "tape" off the buttons, and just replacing it with regular old HomeDepot packing tape. Did give the hubcap and copper tracks a cleaning with alcohol though. Works like a charm, and case closed. See attached photo, and you will spot the original "tape" covering the two buttons on the right. The two on the left have HomeDepot tape . . . .
Now the root cause is still a mystery. Temperature, old age, whatever, could have caused the tape from deteriorating and/or perhaps the adhesive became too tacky.
@Ken_Fraleigh This then raises the question how many past reports of unresponsive remotes could have been caused by temporary non-functional buttons? . . . . The key though is to watch the remote upon key press if it has been idle for a few days/weeks. As mentioned in my previous post, if the unit is physically ok, then the green led should flash whenever a button is pushed. If the led does flash, but nothing happens, well then there is a valid HE/Zigbee issue - as discussed in your separate post . . .
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Good job with the fix. I Thought about mentioning that they are a pretty simple design if you were up to popping it open, but figured you would be better off leading yourself down that path if you chose. I never had this trouble unfortunately as it is a much easier fix then a mesh issue.
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I guess I'm lucky. Lot of four delivered today, so far I'm 2 for 2 on pairing. Will try the rest tonight.
edit: 4 for 4 on pairing
Any help on this would be well appreciated. Was working fine for about a week, then the battery seemed to die and it disconnected, now with new aattery can't get it reconnected. Tried to reset. Then tried to repair and nothing. Can someone confirm proper reset and repair instructions/behaviror. I'm not getting a red flashing after a reset? Just flashes green then stops flashing?
OK, it's been awhile, but I think there are two key combinations that are involved. One is reset, the other is pairing. First try reset (see above post from Jimmy2) for more than 10 seconds, next, if still not pairing, hold down 2-3 (also for more than 10 seconds.) and this should blink orange. May take more than one attempt but one of the combinations will work.
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