Sunrise sunset issues

Hi. It's my first time here with our new Hubitat after switching from Wink. I've written about 10 rules for our motion sensors and lights all based on sunset sunrise with a 45 minute offset, and they work fine for a day until the logic shows true outside of my sunset sunrise parameters. Can anyone help me. I've attached a screenshot taken well outside of the specified conditions. Thanks.
PS, I've set timezones, zip, and map location.

i had the same thing the other day. first time every.. turning on lights during the day when it shouldnt. showed correct sunrise time.. just rebooted hub (use menu under settings) and now it is working ok.

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I did the same thing the first time it happened, but don't think we should need to reboot it every day. Maybe I need to write a reboot rule.

hasnt reoccured

This is the rub, sunset and sunrise are triggers that occur once then gone. Don't think of it like a "mode" it isn't. i suggest that you will find better luck using one of these two suggestions:

  1. Write a rule that triggers at sunset and sunrise, then set these times when each occurs into a global variable; one called sunrise, and the other called sunset. your rule will work as written if you have it evaluate the time stored in the global variable.
  2. Use luminescence instead. Use a sensor in a south window to read lumen levels. i find this works great, and is more of an autopilot method - i.e., a bad weather day = dark = rule kicks in with lighting. if you are evaluating time it sticks to time when you can get more benefit. I use this method to balance the light levels inside my home. if bright outside = bright inside, dark outside = dimmers and scenes change to match. Cool stuff. Enjoy j

you misunderstand. my rules do not fire at sunrise or sunset .. they are supposed to fire between sunset and sunrise.. they were firing after sunrise.

I'm having the same issue with the Simple Automation. The light is turning on during the day when it shouldn't.

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Same issue. Created a simple new SA to turn off a switch on sunrise. Never happens. Older SA set just fine under sunrise and sunset. Running 2.2.4.158

FWIW, I have automations using sunset and sunrise, and both have been working perfectly.


And have others that are working w/out issue as well.
2020-12-31 11_28_39-Apps 2020-12-31 11_28_47-Apps

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This works for me on C-7 with 2.2.4.158:

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yes i understand it works for you guys,, me too at the moment but it did not one day last week till i rebooted, so saying it works does not really solve the issue.. Anyway, recommend you reboot hub and see if it starts working.

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Thanks, missed that it was an intermittent issue, my speed reading was too speedy. :slight_smile:

I haven't had any failures, so looking for some wood to knock on. :wink:

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I guess I'll bump this to the top sense I have been having incessant direct time triggers and condition time rules that do not work properly WITH PROOF. Multiple reboots have not solved the issue.

Aside from the issue below, I have other time based issues not triggering, but this is the most annoying one, currently (the wife).

I will post evidence and see if anybody has any ideas.

Hubitat Elevation® Platform Version

2.2.5.131

Hardware Version

Rev C-7

Rule:

Conditions:


Time during screen shot was approximately 3:30PM PST.

From what I can tell, nearly every trigger event triggers the actions NO MATTER WHAT TIME IT IS.

Logs
RM Rule:

location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 03:31:07.371 PM PST
RM Garage door open 2021-03-05 03:31:07.364 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 03:28:43.403 PM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 03:28:43.395 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 03:27:29.844 PM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 03:27:29.831 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 02:50:12.965 PM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 02:50:12.952 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 02:32:43.243 PM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 02:32:43.230 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 02:19:14.298 PM PST
RM Garage door open 2021-03-05 02:19:14.285 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 01:24:26.188 PM PST
RM Garage door open 2021-03-05 01:24:26.174 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 01:14:54.079 PM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 01:14:54.066 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 12:43:59.717 PM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 12:43:59.703 PM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 11:44:20.983 AM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 11:44:20.968 AM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 10:14:57.886 AM PST
RM Front Door Lock lock unlocked 2021-03-05 10:14:57.873 AM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 08:46:21.332 AM PST
RM Garage door open 2021-03-05 08:46:21.318 AM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 08:35:55.757 AM PST
RM Garage door open 2021-03-05 08:35:55.743 AM PST
location RM:Hallway and Stairs On After Dark 2021-03-05 06:46:11.739 AM PST
RM Garage door open 2021-03-05 06:46:11.726 AM PST

Garage Contact (trigger):

contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 03:42:04.935 PM PST
contact closed GarageContactSensor was closed DEVICE 2021-03-05 03:31:59.397 PM PST
contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 03:31:07.016 PM PST
contact closed GarageContactSensor was closed DEVICE 2021-03-05 02:20:34.291 PM PST
contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 02:19:13.813 PM PST
contact closed GarageContactSensor was closed DEVICE 2021-03-05 01:25:18.125 PM PST
contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 01:24:25.767 PM PST
battery 100 % GarageContactSensor battery is 100% DEVICE 2021-03-05 10:30:47.872 AM PST
contact closed GarageContactSensor was closed DEVICE 2021-03-05 08:49:03.381 AM PST
contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 08:46:20.914 AM PST
contact closed GarageContactSensor was closed DEVICE 2021-03-05 08:37:44.841 AM PST
contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 08:35:55.311 AM PST
contact closed GarageContactSensor was closed DEVICE 2021-03-05 06:48:26.439 AM PST
contact open GarageContactSensor was opened DEVICE 2021-03-05 06:46:11.327 AM PST

Door Lock (trigger):

lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 03:28:44.425 PM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 03:28:43.267 PM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:27:57.348 PM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:27:29.599 PM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 02:50:47.130 PM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 02:50:12.643 PM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 02:32:48.649 PM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 02:32:42.971 PM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 01:23:00.323 PM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 01:14:53.812 PM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 12:44:52.920 PM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 12:43:59.444 PM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 11:44:31.976 AM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 11:44:20.660 AM PST
lock locked Front Door Lock was locked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 10:15:09.660 AM PST
lock unlocked Front Door Lock was unlocked by thumb turn [physical] DEVICE physical 2021-03-05 10:14:57.623 AM PST
battery 70 % Front Door Lock battery is 70% DEVICE 2021-03-05 04:56:59.465 AM PST

Switch 1 (action):

switch on Stairs was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:28:49.732 PM PST
switch off Stairs was turned off [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:28:01.812 PM PST
switch on Stairs was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:27:36.198 PM PST
switch off Stairs was turned off [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:26:32.372 PM PST
level 40 Stairs was set to 40% [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:46:18.008 AM PST
switch on Stairs was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:46:18.006 AM PST
switch off Stairs was turned off [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:25:40.381 AM PST
level 27 Stairs was set to 27% [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:25:32.952 AM PST
switch on Stairs was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:25:32.947 AM PST

Switch 2 (action):

switch on Hallway was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:28:49.713 PM PST
switch off Hallway was turned off [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:28:02.307 PM PST
switch on Hallway was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:27:36.187 PM PST
switch off Hallway was turned off [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 03:26:32.948 PM PST
switch on Hallway was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 10:15:04.122 AM PST
switch off Hallway was turned off [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 09:04:51.394 AM PST
level 40 Hallway was set to 40% [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:46:18.008 AM PST
switch on Hallway was turned on [digital] DEVICE digital 2021-03-05 06:25:32.947 AM PST

Having a condition in "Manage Conditions" does not mean it is applied. These are just a "bank" of conditions that have previously been configured within the rule. For them to be applied they need to appear in some form in the actions (or triggers) section where you are, atm, always dimming the Hallway and Stairs lights when the triggers fire.

So to make use of the condition of Time being between Sunset and Sunrise, you will need to add a conditional action that uses the condition, e.g.:

IF (Time between Sunset and Sunrise)
THEN Dim: Hallway, Stairs: 40 -> fade: 6
END-IF

Simon

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Correct. This rule has no sunset being applied to the Dim: Hallway part of the rule.

Here are a couple tutorials for how to use RM.

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@neonturbo @sburke781

I really appreciate the help. I am not new to home automation but I am coming from the baby town frolics, the "My Little Pony" of home automation hubs (Wink). I have not figured out all the extensive capabilities of Hubitat, but I FREAKEN LOVE IT and the community is fantastic.

Conditional actions... here I come! (SHHHHHHHHHHH, don't tell the wife)

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Also look into Event Engine (communitty app). It's great for automations that don't require the power of RM, but need more options than Simple Automations can offer.

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