Sonoff Zigbee Smart Water Valve

That's all there is, just a soft tick sound.

The device status not updating for manual on/off has always been an issue. My solution for this has been to avoid manual operations and to use a virtual switch to command rules that include a "refresh" action; this has done well to properly update the device status.
Sonoff-Spigot-Rule

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I know this is not the correct place to ask this but then maybe there is no better place. so:
In my garden , under the soil there are 20mm pipes and I want to connect the sonoff water valve to the start point of these pipes. So what type of connector do I need for 20mm pipe ?

Device connectors match to a standard garden hose/bibb (3/4" MHT) - 1 male, 1 female, to act as a pass-through.

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I got 3 of these installed now. Working fine.

I know, in the photo they seem dirty but I am going to clean them.

Btw, I have a question:
Can I put one of these to the main pipe coming to the house ? Would it be enough to handle all the pressure required for home ?

I personally would never trust a device meant for a hose-bib as a whole house water valve. There are numerous Hubitat-compatible valve controllers available that are meant for a water main.

With that being said, unless you have a PRV or some other pressure regulating device, there should be no difference in pressure between a hose bib and your water main.

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if pressure is not an issue , than why don't you trust it as a whole house valve ?
I will not remove the physical valve. Sonoff will be there for just measuring the water rate and when required closing the valve.

Which one for example ? I couldn't find any

My main concern would be the NH (hose thread) fittings - that fitting is strictly for garden hose connections, not in-line plumbing.

I'm admittedly not an expert on the evolution of plumbing fittings, but the fact that you never see in-line plumbing using this type of fitting (nor are any available or sold for this purpose) is enough to tell me it's not a good idea.

The Sonoff documentation very clearly positions this an an irrigation valve, not anything more than that.

Your current installation as irrigation valves has them all positioned horizontally. Did you notice this note in the instructions?

It is recommended to install vertically as horizontal installation may increase the error in flow rate measurement.

Bolt-on options like the Zooz Titan or EcoNet Bulldog are excellent options. In-line solutions that use standard in-line fitting connections (PEX, NPT, or solder) like the Sinope Sedna are also worthy of consideration.

ETA - I use Titans as my main (automation-based) shutoff devices. I primarily use Flume to monitor flow on my main line. Both integrate well into Hubitat.

I got a killer deal from my plumber on a Phyn installation, so I have that on my main line too. I bring that into Hubitat via Home Assistant. One thing I really like about the Phyn compared to many/most in-line flow sensors is that it's ultrasonic -- there are no impellers that could get stuck or come apart in the pipe.

The Phyn also does a nightly pressure test on my system for leaks - that's been a nice warm-fuzzy.

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Just a data point.

I have installed 4 of these over the last year and they were working great, until yesterday. The oldest of the valves stuck open. The worst part is that it reported as being closed. Cycling the valve says it is being opened and closed but it never closed. Fortunately, it only ran for about 5 hours or so but that side of the lawn did get pretty "squishy" LOL.

The replacement I received today won't even actuate the physical valve. Same symptom as reported by someone else above not that long ago.

I have another replacement coming but it's making me question the longevity of these devices.

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My plumber found several adapters to fit this to anywhere in between a pipe. There are adapters for different sizes of pipes.
But you are correct that the vendor (Sonoff) positioning it as a irrigation valve. In any case, I would like to test it as a main input valve , if it can handle all requirement of the house (by means of throughput) and not cause a bottleneck.

Yes , I read that but my installation was not adaptable to vertical placement. So if it will cause erroneous rate measurement, I accept that.

bad news for all of us.
Actually I had loved the easy installation and usage without any power cable requirement of these devices.

actually instead of bolt-on I would prefer in-line solutions as they can also measure. Is Sinope Sedna capable of measuring the flow ? (I checked their web site but could not find this information)
Also, when ordering it asks for which hub it will be used. There is Hubitat amongst the options, but does it matter. I mean if I buy it locally maybe the seller won't be available of the difference and I may end up ordering a non-compatible version. So are there different versions ?
Another issue is the powering. If I install this , I will need a 5V power to the device. Sonoff is working with batteries.

In fact, I can use this one just for on/off operation:
https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/4000334424893.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2tur
https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/1005002633228786.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2tur

but I also need something to measure flow. Any supported flow measurement devices ?

ok now I'm looking for a solution for the main valve.
It can be bolt-on , but I also need flow measurement.
What would be a good solution ?

A flume will do measurement

I see some talk of flume drivers for hubitat, although I haven't tried linking mine up.

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ONLY $250.00 :flushed:

If you think that's steep, don't look up what a Moen Flo or Phyn Plus will set you back :sweat_smile:

Apparently, doing this type of measurement reliably, well, and safely isn't cheap.

I've had Flume in-place for 5+ years (I use it with a battery-conversion kit so that it's now mains-powered), and it's been great - I've had no issues. I use Tom's community integration.

My plumber offered a Phyn Plus at (his) cost w/ free install when he was doing some other work on my main line a couple years ago, so I have that too... That needs HA to get into HE, but it's been issue-free as well -- and it's got some pretty sweet features.

Belkin recently bought Phyn from Uponor, and I'm admittedly skeptical about whatever future plans Belkin may have, but we'll see -- that sort of thing is (unfortunately) somewhat inevitable. The Phyn doesn't use an impeller, so if it does brick someday, at least I don't have to worry about any parts breaking down in the pipe.

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Yes, if you use the add-on flow sensor.

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well, these are all very expensive solutions for me.
I'm looking for cheaper solutions. Reliability is not that important. I just want to see if there's any flow or not at a given time.

If all you want is a hose attachment the Sonoff provides flow info and auto-off can be disabled. Not what I'd attach to my mains but it sounds like that isn't a concern of yours. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D5B8S8N8?th=1

Reliable engineering is expensive. You can put together something with a flow sensor and an arduino.

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You could try somehow strapping a vibration/tamper sensor on a longer stretch of main-line piping. Depending on their sensitivity, some may be able to detect larger flow activity through the pipe, since it sounds like that broader level of activity may suffice for your needs.

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