Is anyone aware of a fireproof safe that will integrate with Hubitat? A fireproof safe that can notify of opening, extended unlocked periods and report the internal/external temp/humidity would seem like a no-brainer product. I don't find anything like that.
Not a no brainer at all, it is extremely complex to do internal temp/humidity and get the signals to go anywhere... At least without compromising the fire and water rating of the safe... Open/close/code used could pretty easily be done though since it is external - you have a point there, and that would be nice/handy.
In any case, no I don't know of any product like this that would integrate with Hubitat.
There are definitely safes like this in the market place that provide internal monitoring, but they are SUPER expensive and not made to integrate with a home automation system.
EDIT: You could also try something like this below. I only have 1 data point on this, and it didn't work worth a darn for the person that tried it.
Although you have me thinking. Maybe I'll toss in a LoRaWAN temp/humidity/motion sensor I have in my safe next time I open it and see if it can get out. 900MHz would have a better chance than 2.4GHz would.
If it can that would cover all of that except code used.
I didn't mean "no brainer" as in simple, I meant "no brainer" as in an obvious saleable product.
Would it be cheap? NO. fireproof safes are not cheap. Most safes already have a biometric reader to open. This is not dissimilar to the standard door locks. I am just surprised that nobody has integrated more "smart" technology into safes. I do see some WIFI enabled "smart" safes, but not fireproof ones.
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Most "good" safes don't have biometrics... But that is a subjective/argumentative opinion. 
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With respect, I think you are vastly overestimating the true market for such a thing.
That is a definite possibility. And obviously explains why none exists today.
It is an interesting idea.
I would place the hub very, very close to the safe to see if i could get a signal through the safe walls. The sensors are obvious, the issue is if you can get the signals to go through the walls of the safe or not. It seems worth a test to put a hub right next to the safe and place a sensor inside to see if you can connect or not.
This now has me thinking about what I might do to my safe. I am not interested in Temperature or humidity but am interested in Opening/Closing and "shock", and can easily mount Z-Wave devices outside of the safe but still generally inaccessible to thieves. One of the features of the Securam Safe Monitor is the ability to monitor for "shock" if someone is beating on the safe. I believe the Zooz ZSE43 Z-wave Tilt/Shock monitor may work for me, and just ordered one.
I am thinking that most any safe is effectively a Faraday Cage. Therefore, no signal is getting in or out.
That's my guess too, but I have the devices so it is easy enough to try just for kicks.
Steel is remarkably frequency agnostic. I'd be amazed if you could detect anything outside the safe. If you can, I'd wonder how....
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Some safes have a hole in the back wall for wiring to fish through for powering different devices such a dehumidifying rod. In my large safe I added a motion sensing light switch on the back wall that is attached to rope lighting that is mounted on the front wall. Wires both fish out that hole in the back and plug into standard outlets. When I open the door, the safe lights up so I can see everything inside without a problem. This could be used as a means to place a sensor on the inside with the signal device mounted on the outside. Similar to the contact sensor for a metal mailbox mod that someone posted a few years back. I could see this easily being utilized for temp and humidity sensing but not the opening / closing of the door.
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Wouldn't the addition of extra wires and whatnot increase the risk of burn-through? I would think the materials in those ports was chosen very carefully for heat/fire resistance...
I dunno, I'd be reluctant to take a chance on that. But, I suppose the least of my worries is my Safe exploding when a fire burns that hot...lol
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I suppose it could. My safe is only fire rated for 30 minutes at like 1400 degrees. But as an added layer in that hole I filled it with fireproof gap spray foam to seal it up.
Well I just received and installed my new Zooz ZSE43 Shock Sensor on the outside of my Safe. Turns out that for the shock sensor to work, it has to be mounted flat on a horizontal surface, which limits placement of the sensor to the top of my safe. Not quite as inconspicuous as I had hoped. But I still have tried to hide it. Turns out, this device works pretty darn well for monitoring shocks to my safe. I have a rule that is triggered when the device senses shock, and sends me a text message. That way I know if anyone is tampering with, or even opening, the safe.
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Why not just put an open-close sensor inside the safe and set up notifications? I have a zooz temp humidity sensor in mine and it works fine. On a C7 it was four hops, but rock solid. I used one battery in a bit over a year. On the C8 it’s usually a direct connection (occasionally 2 to 4 hops), the battery still shows 100% after about 2 months. They released an open-close sensor at the same time, I suspect it would be just as reliable.
My safe is actually on the other side of the house (2170 square feet) from my hub. No problems. I do keep an Accurate-rite hydrometer in there next to the sensor (which is in the back of the safe), every time I check and compare the sensor gives the same readings as the hydrometer.
You could likely just mount a zooz ZSE41 open-close sensor inside. Based on my experience with the ZSE44 temp/humidity sensor mounted inside a Liberty Centurion safe, there’s a pretty good chance it will work.
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Like @lcw731 i have a zigbee temp/humidity sensor inside my safe and works well:
https://www.amazon.com/THIRDREALITY-Temperature-Monitoring-Automation-Batteries/dp/B0BF9W3WMK/
I also have a zigbee contact sensor with an external alarm reed sensor hooked up that notifies me when it is opened.
My zigbee mesh is pretty large with over 100 devices including a mains powered switch just outside the safe. I have never had issues with signal inside the safe and it’s a thick 120 minute fire rated safe.
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Here are the current details for that Zooz ZSE44 temp/humidity sensor. Again, I realize the OP is looking for an open/close sensor, but I think the ZSE41 open/close would probably be similar.
Well. @#$%! Color me amazed. Clearly the signal is getting out somehow. I'd guess through the door seals and any pressure/equalization vents and cable through-holes (if any). Still amazed. Ha.
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