Smart safe

I'm not really interested in the door open/close. Only I am going in by "opening" the door. Anyone else would have to get in by Drilling the lock or cutting a hole in the side; both of which I expect to pick up with a shock sensor.

Though, I am now going to try mounting my shock sensor "inside" and seeing what happens.

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You have S2 Authentication on a Temp/Humidity sensor???

Where is your Zooz Temp/Humidity sensor physically located within your safe?

Still don't understand how any signal is getting out...

Good points! I have one of the Zooz tilt/shock sensors from that same series that's basically spare. I never thought of that. I might just try that!

On the back wall.

I guess when i rebuilt my mesh i forgot to deselect it. I pretty much let stuff include with S2 if it asks for it. It doesn't cause me any problems. S0 on the other hand did.

I would appreciate your trying the shock sensor from inside the safe and letting us know if it works, as I would rather have the sensor inside the safe than outside the safe. I just took a quick look inside my safe to see where I might mount the shock sensor. Since it needs to be mounted horizontally. I have no exposed metal surfaces in my safe that are horizontal; they are all covered with sheet rock (fire protection). I am hoping you can find a place in your safe to mount it horizontally to perform the test.

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Zooz suggests to remove S2 to improve battery life as S2 requires more communication with the Hub. Might also reduce the number of Errors in the communication as the communication will be shorter.

It can actually be useful to enable security on a sensor which may have high signal loss - not for security reasons, but rather because secure messages will resend if there is not an ACK/confirmation instead of just firing and forgetting like a standard unencrypted message.

So in addition to "security" securely paired devices (typically, it gets complicated in edge cases/some cases) get confirmed message delivery.

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That battery lasted about a year. The tilt/shock sensor on my garage door about 10 feet from the hub went through three batteries in the same time.

I”ll give it a try tomorrow. Give it a few day to a week to settle in. Ill let you know how its doing.

Not sure what difference exposed metal will make. Ill probably just attach it with 3m double sided foam tape. Thats how the temp sensor is mounted.

My thinking is that to test it, you need to "shock" the safe enough to trigger the device. I am thinking that you want it taped directly to the metal structure of the safe so that the device is best able to detect a shock.
I tested my mounting and location by lightly hitting my safe with a Dead Blow hammer. Think i'll try some other locations, as well.

Didn't know this, but it makes sense. Thank you for the insight.

I've got a couple of "problem" sensors on my backyard gates. Very weak and slow signal to these devices, though they are connected "direct" to the hub. They work 90% of the time. But occasionally they don't work, or get stuck in the wrong status.

Well, that makes sense. In my case I'll be mounting it on the door (behind the accessory panel), but I can try some other places to see what if any difference it might make. It might be an interesting experiment anyway. As it turns Out I did have an actual spare tilt/Shock sensor. I'll play with it tomorrow. I'm still inclined to get an open/close sensor as well (i see Zooz has not released it with the 800 series chip). While I agree with the value of shock, I could see where someone who has others in their home may have access to the safe (i.e. spouse) might see value in having that as well.

The Zooz web site now includes a bunch of new 800 series devices, including an Open/Close sensor.

I had an ecowitt 915 MHz temperature/humidity sensor in a SentrySafe model SFW205GPC. The ecowitt gateway was one floor above and several walls away.

I had no issue monitoring temperature and humidity.

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That’s good to know. I have actually debated swapping the zooz sensor out for an Ecowitt sensor, but did t know if they would work in a safe or not.

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I hadn't had time to play with this much, but I did do one experiment with it. I mounted the Zooz Tilt/shock sensor on the door underneath the locking bars, my logic was that the action of the bars moving would trigger the shock. that theory was partially correct, it does. However, that sensor mounted there didn't get a particularly good signal. I suspect if it were mounted on the back of the door, it might have a better signal, but would be more insulated against shock. In the next few weeks, I'm going to need to remove the accessory panel off the door to reset the manufactures back door code from the electric lock. I might try mounting it inside the door when I do that to see if it makes any difference.

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