Slow or inconsistent Hubitat responses


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Solved: Hubitat devices had been unreliable for over a year :grinning_face:

Hubitat Elevation C-8 Pro, along with Alexa, Siri/HomeKit, and a UniFi home network with several access points

I wanted to share this because it may help someone else who has struggled with slow or inconsistent Hubitat responses without finding an obvious cause.

My system uses a Hubitat Elevation C-8 Pro along with Alexa, Siri/HomeKit, and a UniFi home network with several access points. For more than a year, commands had become extremely unreliable. Some lights responded immediately, while others took a long time or did not respond at all. The problem occurred through voice commands, HomeKit, and normal automations.

I had reached the point where I was seriously considering wiping everything and starting over, possibly abandoning Hubitat and moving everything to HomeKit. My wife was ready to remove the smart devices and go back to regular switches.

Fortunately, I did not reset the hub or start excluding and re-pairing devices. The problem turned out to involve the surrounding network configuration.

What we found

I downloaded a UniFi support file and had ChatGPT analyze the configuration and logs. Two issues stood out.

1. The UniFi 2.4 GHz radios were using 40 MHz channel widths

My Hubitat Zigbee network was operating on Zigbee channel 20. Several UniFi access points were using 40 MHz channel widths on 2.4 GHz, creating much more overlap and potential interference than necessary.

We changed every UniFi 2.4 GHz radio to:

  • 20 MHz channel width

  • Wi-Fi channels 1, 6, or 11

  • No change to the 5 GHz or 6 GHz channel widths

I left Hubitat on Zigbee channel 20 rather than changing two things at once.

The improvement in Hubitat responsiveness after reducing the Wi-Fi channel width was substantial.

2. Hubitat was connected through both Ethernet and Wi-Fi

In Hubitat under Settings → Network Setup, I discovered that both network interfaces were active:

  • Ethernet: 192.168.1.159

  • Wi-Fi: 192.168.1.211

UniFi showed the Ethernet connection as Hubitat but incorrectly identified the Wi-Fi connection as a “Raise3D Pro2 Plus 3D Printer.” I do not own a 3D printer.

The UniFi logs also contained hundreds of duplicate-IP or conflicting client-association warnings involving the Hubitat network addresses and its two hardware interfaces.

Since Hubitat was already connected by Ethernet, I did the following:

  1. Opened Hubitat → Settings → Network Setup.

  2. Confirmed that Ethernet was connected and working.

  3. Disconnected Hubitat from Wi-Fi.

  4. Continued using Ethernet only.

  5. In UniFi, created a DHCP reservation so Hubitat’s Ethernet address remains fixed at 192.168.1.159.

After disconnecting Hubitat Wi-Fi, the mystery “3D printer” immediately went offline in UniFi, while the wired Hubitat remained online at its correct address.

What I did not do

I did not:

  • Factory-reset Hubitat

  • Reset the Zigbee or Z-Wave radios

  • Change the Hubitat Zigbee channel

  • Exclude and re-pair devices

  • Rebuild automations

  • Replace device drivers

  • Move everything to HomeKit

Results

After allowing the system to settle, the difference was remarkable. Lights began responding quickly and consistently again—essentially the way the system worked before these problems started.

The following evening, my wife commented that she could hardly believe everything was working again. Considering that she had been ready to remove the smart switches entirely, that was a pretty meaningful test.

I cannot say whether the 40 MHz Wi-Fi interference or the simultaneous Ethernet/Wi-Fi connections was the single cause. My suspicion is that both contributed:

  • The 40 MHz Wi-Fi configuration affected Zigbee reliability.

  • The two active Hubitat network interfaces affected LAN, cloud, Alexa, and HomeKit communication.

Suggested checklist

If you are experiencing similar unexplained delays, I would check these items before resetting anything:

  1. Confirm that every 2.4 GHz access point uses a 20 MHz channel width.

  2. Use only Wi-Fi channels 1, 6, and 11 where possible.

  3. Check Hubitat → Settings → Network Setup.

  4. If Hubitat is wired, disconnect its Wi-Fi connection.

  5. Do not operate Hubitat on Ethernet and Wi-Fi simultaneously.

  6. Reserve the Hubitat Ethernet address in your router so it remains consistent.

  7. Allow the system time to settle before making another change.

  8. Make only one change at a time whenever possible.

This may not solve every slow Hubitat system, but it restored a system that had been unreliable for over a year without requiring a reset or rebuilding a single device.

The one disappointment

I searched the forum and tried multiple things to no avail. I wasted a lot of time trying all manner of things. I even replaced my hub; I went from a C-7 to a C8 Pro, which cost me $181.02 for no reason (I still have the C-7, if someone is interested). Out of desperation, I wrote to Hubitat (see letter below) and offered to pay them for some help. They never even responded. I have too much invested now to start over with Home Assistant, and now that everything is working, there is no need to change; however, I would not go with Hubitat again. Not because I had issues, but because they did not have the decency to even send me an email back to turn down my request. IMO - a company like that does not deserve my business.

To what email address? The only ways to directly contact Hubitat is via the support website (https://support.hubitat.com) or via the Hubitat community. There are no monitored support email addresses.

Is that a Reddit post? Which sub-Reddit was it posted to? r/Hubitat is not an official Hubitat support channel. Hubitat support does monitor r/hubitat_elevation, but the best way to reach support is via the Hubitat community.

There is no paid tech support provided by the company, and as @aaiyar mentioned, there’s no human monitoring email inquiries asking for support (paid or free).

However, there is an auto-response if one takes it upon oneself to email support@hubitat.com.

I received this within seconds of sending a test email just now:

Based on the screenshot @Farris posted, they sent an email to "hello". Would be interesting to know who they emailed, and at what address ....

I just noticed that too.

Sending a test email to hello@hubitat.com doesn’t generate an auto-response, but I have no idea if that’s a valid email address at all.

People over the years have said they email Hubitat, but nobody has taken the time to say where they found the email (that does not exist as mentioned) for Hubitat.

If this email address exists, I wish someone would point staff to where they found the email address so that it can be removed. It only creates confusion and frustration for people to email an unmonitored email. Worse, it could be a fake or fraudulent email address if you are just finding this on some random site by searching the internet.

Sorry to hear you had such an experience, but for everyone reading this in the future, PLEASE post here first, and ambassadors or others can help direct you to resources including getting staff attention to issues users are having.

That is great advice. I wish more people followed it.

I would add soft reset with database cleaning to that too.

I am very sure the documentation suggests just that. I know that has been discussed on the forums. It is one or the other, not a failback or simultaneous connection.

I just looked at the registration and setup page. It has no such warnings. Thinking about other devices I have in my home, there is no warning there either. However, I don't think any of them allow simultaneous connections. All my other devices automatically prioritize wired over wireless. If I have a wireless connection, and plug in my wired, it drops the wireless on its own. After I unplug the cables, if I had wifi setup before, it automatically reverts to the settings I had. The only devices I have that can run bother simutaneously are routers and AP's. I wonder if there is any way that HE can do that?

I am fairly certain @gopher.ny has warned against having both active. Maybe there needs to be some clarification in the UI that explains this?

Yes, @gopher.ny has warned against running Ethernet and WiFi simultaneously. However, your response implies that everyone should have read that post.

Many HE users aren't very active on this forum. There should be something in the UI that warns when both are active. The UI should also give advise on how to fix the issue.

My personal feelings are that the fix is a symptom of design decisions that make HE a niche product.

Agree with @tray_e, the system should automatically shut off WiFi when Ethernet is active.

Only if you choose to read it that way.

An alternative reading is that @tray_e mentioned certain kinds of WiFi devices can run WiFi and Ethernet simultaneously. @neonturbo recalled a relevant statement made by staff that would indicate Hubitat is not such a device.

Email address was to: hello@hubitatsupport.com

This is not a Reddit post.

Could you tell us how you came to use that email address?

Ahhh, I see what’s going on here.

You found a website unrelated to Hubitat Inc., the company that sells the hub, runs the cloud platform, and maintains this online forum.

Whoever Healy technologies is, they note themselves at the bottom of the page they’re unaffiliated with Hubitat, Inc.

Your beef (re: unreturned emails) is with them.

I never said that. I said I wonder if they could/should

I am aware of this. My comment was that it was not in the actual documentation as a warning. There is a mention that no network cable is required to set up wifi. But that is a subtle and distinct difference. Many of us know that inherently. But not everyone.

My guess would be this person:

To reiterate what @marktheknife wrote, that is not an address affiliated with Hubitat Inc.

Anyone can register a domain like hubitatsupport.com, as in this case, @daniel.t.healy appears to have done. He has no affiliation with Hubitat Inc, other than as a member of this community.

For future reference, you can use Hubitat’s support website (support.hubitat.com) for the issues listed on that site. Outside of those issues, this community provides support from other members as well as Hubitat staff.

It is. :slight_smile:

I looked yesterday and did not see it. :man_shrugging:
Correction. It is not in the getting started section that tells you how to get the initial connection (Which is where most new users are going to start)

It was there. :wink: