It's every line of every rule I have, If I edit a page, it takes me to the AND OR XOR page (you linked above), and there is NO chance that every single line of every single rule I did that (backed out without clicking done).
And even if I click done now, and go back in, same thing.
Edit: not every one, I just found one where it didnt.
Edit 2: it seems to be that for rules that this bug is NOT affected, going into the rule once and clicking done, will make it appear. That just happened for 2 rules I was looking at.
It does work, for the two things I mentioned. It can be erased, or it can be added to. But, editing conditions is a different thing, done in the other place.
I guess its the wording at the top "select actions" then the drop down "edit action" which could be cleared up by editing the header. "Current Conditions for Laundry Actions"
Cause then @bravenelI I might see the below as conditions VS actions.
Why was it changed? I've never used the "Manage or Create conditions" and I've edited hundreds of rules in Rule 4. But now I cant edit any conditions that way.....seems a little weird that I have to leave the rule editing page to edit the conditions.
So you know you're creating something out of conditions. And below, as you go, each condition ends up on the list in the lower box, and on the pull down list of conditions you can add to the expression. All you have to do is to realize that you can edit the components of the expression, its conditions. But you can't really edit the format of the expression itself.
Let's say your expression is formed like this: IF (X AND (P OR T)) THEN. You can edit X, P and T below. You can't edit the ( ... AND ( ... OR ... )) format of it.
No, something is amiss then, because I cant edit any rule without getting that box, once I hit done once with the recent update. Second time into the rule (From my experience) to edit it, and that box appears, and as mentioned, I've never used the "Manage or Create Conditions". IN fact, yesterday I wondered why it was there
So this one has likely been said - but I don't see it...
I have a plug that I want to monitor to turn off if it has been on for too long. In RM 3 I used a condition of the plug being on, delay x minutes (cancel) then turn it off. How do we do that in RM 4?
Gonna 1up my own post - here's what I really need to do - can someone identify the logic I need to use?
If Light1 or Fan1 turn on
then turn on Switch1
wait 20 minutes
turn off Switch1
If Switch2 turns on
then turn on Switch1
wait 150 minutes
turn off Switch1
If Switch1 or Switch2 turn off then turn off Switch1 and Switch2 and cancel all timers
If Light1 turns on (starts timer) then Fan1 turns on (reset timer) same with Switch2 - if it turns on, cancel other timer and run the 150 minutes.
If Light1 or Fan1 turn on then off then on, etc, the 20 minute timer resets - but cannot cancel the 150 minute timer - the latter time should win out (if 150 minute timer has 10 minutes then the 150 should cancel and a 20 should run)
I've been back and forth with Bruce all day with this exact issue and now it's affecting at least 3 rules, some of which haven't been touched in weeks. There is no way to get out b/c you can't select erase expression, you can only add And/Or/XOR
Hope they find something soon as I don't want to start rebuilding until they find it, my luck it will happen to others and I don't know where it will stop
BTW, @bobbyD from support reached out to me via PM to say that he was following the thread, noticed I was having issues and that he was looking into it. 3 cheers for Bobby, now that's customer service
OK, look, we have to be careful about the words used because they all have multiple meanings. When you say "edit any rule" could you please show screenshots of the successive steps you are experiencing. You open a rule, click on the Actions to Run section, and what is the very next screen you see?
Or, are you talking about selecting an Action from the Edit Action pull down menu? If so, what kind of action is it? Is it a Conditional Action?
Pictures are worth 1000 words, so we can get some understanding of what's happening. There could be some bug, or there could be some misunderstanding of how things work. It's very hard to tell which from words here.
I have tried to add more And/Or... and then select "Done with Actions" however everytime I go back into edit the actions, this is where I am brought to
Click on AND, OR or XOR and select AND. Then select one of the conditions on the next pull down menu. Then Click on Done with Conditional Action. That should bring you back to the normal Action screen. If it does, then delete that action, and redo it. If it does not, then you must use choice 2 below.
Would it be possible to grey out the conditions that are not able to be edited in the edit rule page?
Or, even have the "Manage and Create conditions" page open when you do select them?
You don't select the conditions on the edit action page (there is no "edit rule page"), you are selecting an action to edit (from the pull down called Edit Action). The IF-THEN action doesn't have much you can edit. Consider this: how could you edit the ELSE or the END-IF actions? So can't you just learn how the UI works? Learn that for IF-THEN, you need to edit individual conditions rather than the action itself. They are all right there for you to work with.
And learn that for a Simple Conditional action you can edit the whole thing at once.
Why the difference? The Simple Conditional action is simple. It has one condition and one action. The IF (conditions) THEN is complex, it can't be edited so easily due to the inherent complexity of any number of conditions in one action. So, all of those conditions are in one place for your editing convenience.
