[RELEASE] Linptech/Moes 24Ghz Presence Sensor ES1 ( TS0225 _TZ3218_awarhusb ) drivers

[MorpheosZ]

@danabw

@MorpheosZ

...and a few more weeks later none of them have stopped reporting.

That's good news so far, but I've had them seem fine for >2 months and then fall off, so you may still be inside your "grace period." I hope you do end up w/them behaving well, but I think you'll need to go at least a couple months to start getting confident they are solid. But good news so far, which is nice.

Yeah, well I put them in secondary / non-critical roles because, fool me once... But they never went this long previously so I'm cautiously optimistic. But agreed, they will need to go months before I trust them in a more critical role

[user2574]

That matches my experience with these as well. They do not stop on their own, only a chance of not coming back after a reboot, which actually seems better lately.

People say it is not the hub, but it seems to be a Hubitat only problem, and different hubs versions seem to change the fail behavior, so I am skeptical of that theory. I can't find anything on the internet that says these sensors have the same issues on other platforms.

[JumpJump]

@alex1

I use tiny USB Male to Female ESP8266 devices. About $5 a piece.

Got a link to this device?

[alex1]

search this forum for XY-WFUSB

[JumpJump]

Thanks.

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Just got one and flashed it right away with Tasmota. Works great and with Tasmota it can be integrated into HE, and unlike the Sonoff you're not forced to use the likely spyware app. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2255800604905698.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.60631802uE460W And a great overview and tutorial: [#317 A new cheap Wi-Fi-USB Switch. Test and "tasmotizing" (Sinilink, Tasmotizer)]

[DGBQ]

Hi @kkossev

Would you know if this Linptech ES1 Zigbee from AliExpress will work with the drivers you have written.

Thanks
David

Please Note
The link is for the Wi-Fi version, but I am referring to the Zigbee version next to it.

[user2574]

I have some of the Limptech ES1 Zigbee and the MOES version, both work great with this driver.

Your link goes to the wifi version, but I think that is just AliExress defaulting back to it since it has the same link as the Zigbee selection on that page.

[DGBQ]

@user2574

I have some of the Limptech ES1 Zigbee and the MOES version, both work great with this driver.

Your link goes to the wifi version, but I think that is just AliExress defaulting back to it since it has the same link as the Zigbee selection on that page.

Thanks for the response! I really appreciate the insight.

I picked up two Limptech ES1 Zigbee devices from the Cutesliving Store on AliExpress back in March, and they’ve been working great with this driver. Unfortunately, they’re no longer available—such is the gamble of AliExpress shopping!

As I’ve learned the hard way, buying Zigbee devices from AliExpress can be a bit of a wildcard. Even if they look the same, they don’t always play nice with the same driver version. That’s why I’m asking @kkossev if the latest version of the driver will support this one.

Darn AliExpress links—they always seem to have a mind of their own! I did notice it defaulted to the WiFi version, but I couldn’t find a direct link to the Zigbee model. It’s listed right beside it, though, so I should have pointed that out. My mistake!

[JumpJump]

Your link links to the wifi version.

[user2574]

I've had no issue with any other Tuya Zigbee devices I've got off AliExpress, but I bought my mmWave sensors from Amazaon and Ebay so hard to say if they are different. I wouldn't think so. The MOES ones I got on Ebay recently were $28.

Ebay Item

[DGBQ]

@JumpJump

Your link links to the wifi version.

Yes, duly noted and acknowledged.

@DGBQ

Darn AliExpress links—they always seem to have a mind of their own! I did notice it defaulted to the WiFi version, but I couldn’t find a direct link to the Zigbee model. It’s listed right beside it, though, so I should have pointed that out. My mistake!

[DGBQ]

@user2574

've had no issue with any other Tuya Zigbee devices I've got off AliExpress, but I bought my mmWave sensors from Amazaon and Ebay so hard to say if they are different. I wouldn't think so. The MOES ones I got on Ebay recently were $28.

Ebay Item

Thanks for the link! By the time it's converted to Canadian dollars, taxed, and shipped, I might need to dust off my résumé and come out of early retirement just to afford it!

[DGBQ]

@JumpJump

There is no need to bother the driver developer when buying products. Plenty of us have experience with this product. If you find the zigbee version of this product at a price you are willing to pay it will likely work. Don't over think it.

Thanks, but I’ll stay with my original request. I trust @kkossev’s expertise—he’s like the Jedi Master of Hubitat community Zigbee drivers. He’s been incredibly helpful in the past, pointing out that some retailers may offer similar devices with different internal driver versions, which may or may not work with the Hubitat drivers he’s written. In fact, he’s even asked for the specific version of the device I’m eyeing, and I’ve happily provided him with the link. Better safe than sorry.

[DGBQ]

@JumpJump

Let's just not give others this idea then.

Home automation thrives on ideas, so discouraging them doesn’t seem like the best approach—but I respect your opinion. Let’s agree to disagree.

@JumpJump

Shopping on the internet is a poor use of developer time.

Interesting take! Alternatively, and as I don’t represent the Hubitat volunteer development community, I’d say it’s perfectly reasonable that they can spend their time however they see fit—including browsing online stores when the mood strikes —but I respect your opinion. So once again let’s agree to disagree.

[DGBQ]

@DGBQ

Hi @kkossev

Would you know if this Linptech ES1 Zigbee from AliExpress will work with the drivers you have written.

Thanks
David

Please Note
The link is for the Wi-Fi version, but I am referring to the Zigbee version next to it.

Hi @kkossev,

I just wanted to reach out to ensure that my previous question didn’t come across as a demand. If it did, I apologize, as that was certainly not my intention. Like many community members, I truly appreciate the work you do. Your Zigbee drivers for other Hubitat devices have been incredibly helpful in expanding my home automation environment. Thanks again for everything!

[DGBQ]

@JumpJump

But back to the point since I'm probably the member that first raised this product for support.. If you find them at a good price and they are Zigbee they will work. There is very little variation other than a firmware rev, but you wont know what that is until you get them. But you can update the firmware.

Thank you for providing helpful information. Upon reflection, I recall @kkossev mentioning that there is no way to determine the applied firmware.

I believe that respecting diverse opinions is essential for fostering a healthy and thriving community. Every member’s input adds value, and it is the variety of perspectives that enriches our discussions. It is disheartening when conversations shift from constructive exchange to personal remarks, as this undermines the productive and respectful dialogue we all benefit from.

With that said, I found your recent comment

@JumpJump

You have an interesting way of justifying demanding time of others. Not what I would typically expect of a Software Implementation Project Manager. Perhaps you see us all as people to manage and allocate to your project.

unnecessary and unproductive.

I respectfully request that you refrain from responding to my posts in the future. I assure you that I will extend the same courtesy.

Thank you for your understanding.

Note: Updated pasted the same quote twice.

[danabw]

@DGBQ

I just wanted to reach out to ensure that my previous question didn’t come across as a demand.

It did not come across that way, and Kkossev is obviously a big boy and can manage his time/activities and choose where to spend his time well enough on his own, you don't need to censure yourself. No worries.

[kkossev]

Hi David,

This Linptech ES1 Zigbee device seems to be the same as the one that is already supported natively in Hubitat and supported by the two custom drivers available in HPM.

As we know, one and the same device can be sold by many different sellers on different platforms. Different sellers appear and disappear on the selling platforms (Amazon, Alixpress, etc..) Sometimes, the Zigbee identifier will be the same; sometimes, it may have a different 'manufacturer' ID. So, there is never a 100% guarantee of what you will receive, even when the device looks the same. There is no guarantee that the same seller will send you the same device, even in one purchase order - sellers' suppliers may have sourced the items from different manufacturers.

It doesn't make any difference whether you purchase such devices from AliExpress, eBay or the US Amazon (except the Amazon exceptional return policy, of course...). The sellers can not distinguish between the different versions because these Tuya devices are designed and they are always working with the Tuya hubs; any usage outside of the Tuya ecosystem is not guaranteed.

[aaiyar]

Good morning -

All the stuff quoted below is unnecessary and unwarranted. @kkossev or any other developer can speak for themselves; they've given no indication of needing an arbiter to deflect questions from community members.

If you dislike questions posed by a community member to a developer, you have the choice of ignoring that thread. There is no need for you to respond on the part of the developer.

@DGBQ was civil in his questions. If you dislike such questions, feel free to ignore them.

Continuing the discussion from [RELEASE] Linptech/Moes 24Ghz Presence Sensor ES1 ( TS0225 _TZ3218_awarhusb ) drivers:

@JumpJump

There is no need to bother the driver developer when buying products. Plenty of us have experience with this product. If you find the zigbee version of this product at a price you are willing to pay it will likely work. Don't over think it.

@JumpJump

Let's just not give others this idea then. Shopping on the internet is a poor use of developer time.

@JumpJump

You have an interesting way of justifying demanding time of others. Not what I would typically expect of a Software Implementation Project Manager. Perhaps you see us all as people to manage and allocate to your project.

[nclark]

@aaiyar

All the stuff quoted below is unnecessary and unwarranted.

Thank you for stepping in!