Presence is dead

No matter what I do now, presence is non functional on my phone. It says out of geofence but the device status on the hub never changes. I've force quit. I've uninstalled. I've restarted.

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Hubitat's presence never worked consistently or at all on any of our phones. We tried it after Life360 reduced its services. We're still in search of a simple and reliable cross-platform solution.

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If you are getting logged out of the app between sessions, it may be toggling off your geofencing. Mine was rock solid on the new app until I logged into my tablet with the same e-mail. I wound up creating a different e-mail guest account just for my tablet, and it was rock solid again. They stated they had fixed the log in issue, so I tried the same e-mail account again. The next time I opened the app, I had been logged out (so not completely fixed). After logging in again, my geofence did not seem to work. After manually updating present/not present a couple of times, I decided to check just in case the "home" location had moved. That is when I found that logging out had also turned off my geofence toggle. Turned it back on and rock solid again.

I haven't had any of the logging out issues.

This is the way...depending on your def of simple, which is a subjective thing, of course.

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Thanks, that app still has the manual restart required after every app stop or phone start. Looks like a great contribution for some use cases, but I'm looking for automation, not complication of my life. :smile:

Background location permission was added in version 2.5.0 of the Play Store app, so the app store version no longer needs to be opened after a phone reboot to continue to get location. :slight_smile:

  • Background location permission! (Hurray!)
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Oh cool. The first post in the linked OT [Release] thread above still calls out a manual restart is required under the " Phone Locations are not Responsive" text header. Will give it a go.

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The author is extremely responsive and helpful. Read through the basic setup instructions and give it a go, and post any questions you have in that main Owntracks topic.

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Thanks for the nudge. Works like a charm.

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Interesting, I didn't know that. I stopped using it because of that. Guess I'll need to test it again.

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The Hubitat app presence is unreliable for me, but somehow the Hubitat HD+ app on my Android phone never seems to miss inside/outside of Geofence. I can use it to set a virtual switch in Hubitat and as far as I can tell it has been perfectly reliable. Maybe Hubitat staff could ask him how he does it.

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Yes, it's still unreliable for me too