Permanent DST in British Columbia, Canada

BC has decided to go onto DST permanently March 8; we will be an hour ahead of the usual west coast folks like Cali and Oregon.
How does the hub handle this change?
I don't know where it pulls it's time data from.

Not until Nov 1. We will be on the same PDT, but now won't change to PST on Nov 1, 2026. Chaos will ensue I'm almost certain, but not until November. The Hubitat team will handle the change, right @gopher.ny :wink:

There's a slim possibility you will have to manually adjust, but only for one cycle and then things should be fine from there forward.

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Doesn't this split the time zone? I thought Hubitat uses a reference to the time zone to determine DST changes or not, maybe it is a bit more granular than that, and it actually uses long/lat or postal code?

I believe they use lat/long or postal, but it's in their hands to figure out what's needed. :grin: I'm confident they will have it all sorted before November of this year.

Yes, I suspect it will all be sorted.
I was just curious if they drew the time from something magical like NIST and the correction would be a worldly one as is DNS.

Change your hub location to Fort Nelson and see what happens. :thinking:

Coordinates: 58°48′21.3″N 122°41′47.3″W

Suspect they'll handle it the same way they do for Arizona which doesn't observe DST for most of the state.

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Good for you to get rid of that non-sense. Here in QC, it's been discussed twice a year for ages but nothing is ever done about it.

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But why one over the other? I think I’m a Standard type guy. Did the people vote on it?

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I wish we had DST year around in the Central US time zone. I'm an evening person--I HATE it getting dark at 4pm and am sleeping at 5-7am when it gets light in the winter.

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Not in the US sense of voting for everything but there were polls that were mostly positive for the change. There have been many talks of the West Coast all doing it together but nothing came of it. Maybe this will be the kick-off.

Yeah, I can call my son for 6 months of the year now and it won't be a stupid 3 hours difference.
He's in bed, we're in bed, he eating, we're not etc.

I'm sure Hubitat will have it sorted out by then. Users in BC can also choose Arizona - Mountain Standard Time after March 8th, and all will be well even after November.

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I had no worries.
I was more interested in where the functionality for time zones was located or how the exceptions were handled.

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Oregon and Washington passed laws to stay on DST. But it required California to do the same, and they didn't quite get there. And the Federal Congress would have to approve it. And that hasn't happened either. There's a new push in Oregon to stay on standard time that's not really going anywhere. But I'd prefer DST because I hate dark before 4:00 pm. But I'd accept either if it meant not having to switch back and forth.

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me too

I think these anti-DST'ers just want to ruin BBQ season. :rofl:

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I think the general argument in favor of permanent DST is more sunlight later in the afternoon/evening so people can enjoy more time outside before the end of the day.

That argument probably holds up less in many places when one considers electricity and outdoor floodlights have been around for a while? And of course some people will always prefer more light earlier in the morning. Personally, I think I’d prefer permanent DST though.

And while the effect on health outcomes is hard for researchers to definitively tease out, it’s plausible that staying on standard time could be associated with the greatest reduction in evening heart attacks and strokes.

Getting rid of the biannual clock shift (in either direction) would probably help with that, though.

Short answer, it wont.

Set your time zone to the correct etc/GMT offset, I believe these stay on that same offset with no DST. That was the solution for someone in South America who had a similar problem and the old time zone kept switching with the old DST rules.

I have no idea why the GMT-# then has GMT+#:00 after it, and conversely, the GMT+# has GMT-#:00???? I have no idea which one is which. You will have to try them and find out.

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One is for 12 Hr and the other for 24 Hr. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: