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[Eric.C.Miller]

DOH! Thanks!

[WindowWasher]

@jcarreira I don't know why you think that you need to replace all of your ADT/ST devices. I have a ADT/ST Water Leak Detector, which is Zigbee, and it paired easily with Hubitat and is fully supported. I'm not very familiar with many of the ADT/ST devices, but I'm thinking that it is likely that most would work with Hubitat. Both SmartThings and Hubitat support Zigbee and Z-Wave. Do some research on compatibility before you give up on the devices you have.

[Eric.C.Miller]

ADT Smarthings to Hubitat

Hello! First I would like to apologized for a repeated topic. Right now i'm suffering from too much info. There are multiple topics about migrating from smartthings and there some much that some of them are outdated and confused me. I need some assistance getting started. I have the ADT smartthings HUB. I haven't really had time to play with the custom apps you have to use on this hub to make it work well with other devices like the regular smartthings hub, but I still have all drivers and a…

[jlv]

@WindowWasher

I don't know why you think that you need to replace all of your ADT/ST devices.

From what I've read on the ST community, the dual branded ADT/ST devices are proprietary and won't work on other systems. Devices that weren't dual branded ADT/ST should work on Hubitat.

[lawsonad]

@jcarreira my advice, buy a HE C-7 hub and figure out which of your existing devices with pair/include with the HE hub using generic drivers (aka handler scripts). Then replace only the ones you can't bring over.

The compatible devices list is a little misleading, those are devices that HE staff has personally tested and/or built a customer driver. There are hundreds of more devices not on that list that will work with the generic drivers, but YMMV.

[Sebastien]

This list of devices with Community Device Drivers is also very useful:

Custom Device Drivers [Wiki]

The purpose of this Wiki post* is to maintain an active list of community based drivers that are currently running on the Hubitat Elevation platform. As you add new devices to your network that are NOT listed in the "List of Compatible Devices" , please add them here to keep the Community up to date. See also, the Community Apps Wiki for a list community based applications. Please note: The list of devices that are known by our staff to work on Hubitat Elevation hub, has a new home. Please vi…

[jcarreira]

Hey, thanks everyone! This gives me a lot to start with. Any thoughts on a wall mounted tablet? I saw this thread:

Recommendations for a wall mounted tablet

Rooting it makes it that much more of a better experience. Especially the locking as every time it applies an update you end up at the lock screen which always seems to be at the most inconvenient time. This was the biggest driver for me, but I did run it for a while without rooting just fine as well. One of the things I do instead of turning off the screen though is have it display a slideshow of pictures from out drop box. Me and the wife just have to drop our favorite pics into a dropbox fo…

I'm wondering if there's any new thoughts. Seems like the newer Fire HD tablets are harder to root, but pretty cheap. A used iPad Mini 2 is only like $100, so I was wondering if that would work better / easier?

[lawsonad]

Get an iPad, install Homebridge, and then enjoy your favorite dashboard app from the Apple App Store.

This is my pick for iPad wall mount enclosure.

https://www.vidabox.com/kiosks/vidamount-on-wall-ipad-tablet-enclosure-mount.html

[wayne.pirtle]

You can use Fire tablets with the Fully Kiosk app.

[jcarreira]

@lawsonad I don't use HomeKit, I use Alexa. What are the dashboard apps?

[jcarreira]

@wayne.pirtle is it going to bring up the lock screen so I have to swipe it away?

Also, what dashboard do I put on the kiosk app? Can I make it have a PIN to disarm the HSM?

[lawsonad]

@jcarreira

I don't use HomeKit, I use Alexa. What are the dashboard apps?

No idea, Android, Amazon, and Google are no longer invited inside my household.

[jcarreira]

But which dashboard do you do on the iPad? Is there a native, or browser in kiosk mode? I saw someone mention SharpTools (https://sharptools.io/) and that looks pretty promising

[josh]

@jcarreira

Seems like the newer Fire HD tablets are harder to root, but pretty cheap.

@jcarreira

is it going to bring up the lock screen so I have to swipe it away?

Also, what dashboard do I put on the kiosk app? Can I make it have a PIN to disarm the HSM?

@jcarreira

But which dashboard do you do on the iPad? Is there a native, or browser in kiosk mode? I saw someone mention SharpTools (https://sharptools.io/) and that looks pretty promising

The newer Fire Tablets, when paired with Fully Kiosk can avoid the lockscreen after going to sleep. Seems to be a relatively recent discovery as older Fire tablets could not avoid the lockscreen after turning the screen completely off (the workaround on those being to use a screensaver instead).

More on that discussion here:

Picked up a used FireHD8

Regarding SharpTools, it can be used on any modern browser including iPads, Android, Fire Tablets, PCs, etc. Fully Kiosk Browser is an app which is a popular solution for displaying dashboards on Android and Fire tablets - especially devices that are dedicated to displaying dashboards.

SharpTools dashboards can also be added directly to your mobile device's homescreen much like an app (reference).

SharpTools supports PIN protection on any tile, so you can require a PIN on your HSM tiles or any other tiles you choose.

The built-in Hubitat dashboards has an option for requiring a PIN specifically for HSM or Mode tiles. The Hubitat mobile app can also display the built-in Hubitat dashboards (on iOS or Android) and you can also add them to your homescreen (or use Fully Kiosk on Android/Fire devices).

[kahn-hubitat]

i took a little different approach after rooting and installing custom f/w on the fire tablet there is an option to enable a pin code to unlock the tablet which is what i use.

[wayne.pirtle]

FK can keep the lock screen from coming up. You can set FK to not allow a user to exit FK, and you can set a PIN for access. I think it I can be set by page.

[Sebastien]

@jcarreira

A used iPad Mini 2 is only like $100, so I was wondering if that would work better / easier?

I have an iPad Mini 2 setup as my only mounted dashboard. I set the iPad to never turn off and plugged it in with power from one of Makes by Mike’s power supplies:

Tablet Wall Mount for Apple iPad

I ended-up getting mounting clips from Amazon because I was planning to use a full-size iPad that they didn’t sell at the time. The clips are working out great!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078YR6L4K/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_WV30EP7MS4BPKZH02S6R

I have a web browser setup with the Hubitat dashboard on it. Here is the final result:

[jcarreira]

For those of you with tablets running a dashboard: Can the tablet be used as a chime or caused to respond on events like a device managed by Hubitat? I have my current ST ADT touchpad chime whenever an outside door opens and I'm trying to provide the same experience. I know I can have this happen on one of the Sonos or a siren (hopefully at low volume) but I'm just wondering if I can make it work the same as what I've got now.

[Sebastien]

I use an iPad as my dashboard and cannot use it as a chime. I use either my Google home or Alexa for this.

[dman2306]

I haven't tried this, but if you use Fully Kiosk, [RELEASE] Fully Kiosk Browser Controller seems to have a playSound command