Matter Bulbs suck, I'm going back to Hue!

Yeah the Hue Dials look good but they are about £40 each so once I get to 4 of those cost is on par with the Lutron including the hub. But yes you're right about the other eco system. As I mentioned when I jumped on this thread, I started with Hubitat 4 or 5 years ago in a vain attempt to ditch all other hubs. I now have the C-8, the Hue, Harmony, Honeywell EvoHome - aargh where will it all end!

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Lol.... would you ever want it to end.... :grin:

I should let you get back to the main question....

I don't know :slight_smile:

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Not compatible - I just had a look through the documentation and it details the hubs that can be used so it looks like it's not worth the outlay so I'll stick with Hue (or some other button controller) products.

A Zooz dimmer can be put into smartbulb mode and used as a button controller that never needs batteries for around the same price as the Hue button controllers. Also, you can change it back to behaving like a normal (smart) dimmer, via the preferences tab, if you switch back to standard bulbs at some point.

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Correct in regard to Hubitat compatiblity with Lutron. On Hubitat, the Lutron Smart Bridge Pro is required for you to gain access to the telnet capability, since that's how the Hubitat Lutron Integrator application works. Hubitat also supports RA2 Select Main Repeaters (RR-SEL-REP2-BL), so if you are only interested in Pico remotes, and you can get one of those for a good price, then it might be worth it to you. However, while they do support Pico remotes, they not support the less expensive Caséta dimmers and switches. You would have to use the pricier Radio RA2 devices if you ever wanted to add anything but Pico remotes down the line.

Home Assistant on the other hand, approaches it differently and they are able to use theses bridges:

  • Lutron Caséta Smart Hub (L-BDG2-WH)
  • Lutron Caséta Smart Bridge PRO (L-BDGPRO2-WH)
  • RA2 Select Main Repeaters (RR-SEL-REP2-BL)
  • QSX Processor (HQP7)
  • RadioRA 3 All-in-One Processor (RR-PROC3)

If you're not already running Home Assistant and you have no intention of adding it, then it's a moot point. Get the Hubitat compatible bridge, or do not. There is no try. :laughing:

However, if you do run HA or have a desire to add it for compatibility with even more smart home devices you can spend your money on :grin:, then you could run the HA Lutron integration with a regular Smart Bridge, and also run the HA Hue integration instead of Hubitat's. That would allow you control the lights from Pico remotes via HA, and any light that you want to control by automation from Hubitat, you could do so by bringing the Hue lights from HA to HE via Home Assistant Device Bridge. If you needed or wanted to control anything else or a non Hue light, there are a couple of ways to do that which all work very well (i.e. Virtual switches, HE > HA integration, etc.).

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Again unfortunately not an option for the UK users. We are starting to see some Zooz Z Wave stuff in the correct frequency (868MHz)

That would be fine as we can't use the Caseta line it's all 120V 60Hz and doesn't match our enclosures.

Sooner or later I'll have to jump on the HA bandwagon as it seems there are more integrations and possibilities with it. I have a Pi 4 that I'm running Mosquito, node-red, homebridge on.

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Thanks for the LOL... :wink:

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