Looking for a smart water shut-off valve controller with lots of torque

I've been wanting to get a smart water shut-off valve controller for our main water line coming into our house for a long time now. The house was built back in 2008, so the plumbing is really not that old.
But I noticed the main shut-off valve had a lot of rust build up, so I took a wire brush and remove any rust that would have got in the way of the value moving. But I am finding it takes some good amount of force (torque) to close the value. The first 1/3 of the turn takes some force to turn it, but the other 2/3 takes a lot more.

Not sure if all the smart water shut-off valve controllers use the same amount of torque or if some have more then others. I was wondering if anyone else has dealt with the same issues I'm going through, and what smart water shut-off valve controller did you find that works for you?

I've also been thinking about calling a plumber and have them replace the main value with a newer one, or have a newer one mount above our older value?

The Econet Bulldog has ridiculously high torque:



Wow, that does have the torque!

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Yup. Hence the term "ridiculously high torque" :laughing:

I saw a video of someone controlling a 2" valve with it.

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Forgot to add; it works with Hubitat with the generic z-wave valve driver.

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To me, it looks like the stem packing is failing and causing that rust. If you don't want to solder (which I would personally recommend where possible) then the sharkbite (push connect style) would be a decent fix. This is out in the open where you could see if the sharkbite fitting ever failed, and not in a wall, so I am OK with these. The funny part is the sharkbites cost more than a solder or threaded style.

Your real issue is going to be turning off the water supply. Hopefully you have a well pump you can turn the power off to, or you are going to have to turn it off at the curb. Either that or do what I did and put a second valve above the first. It looks janky, but whatever...


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I had similar problem with my shutoff valve (house built in 2000). It was hard to close and when closed there was still water flow. I had a plumber come and sweat a new valve in. I purchased the valve at Lowes and went through several of them to find the "smoothest" one. When the valve was removed, it had quite a bit of calcification (I have hard water). Even though a high torque shut off is available, it may just be better to get a new valve put in. The valve shouldn't be that hard to turn IMHO. FYI, I use Dome shut off with Samsung leak sensors, they work great together. Good luck!


This is much easier now that lots of places rent out the Ridgid Super Freeze Tool.

This works really well; I've only used it once, but it allowed me to replace a main valve without any issues.


I second the Ridgid Super Freeze, I’ve had plumbers use this to replace a section of pipe that had no valve on it anywhere at the shop I use to work. They froze the pipe, installed a valve and then changed the section of pipe. Did not have to disrupt the shop operations at all and no need to wait for a shut down.


My Dome stopped responding to my hub for some reason and I cannot seem to get it paired again even after excluding it (via hub, via stick etc) and resetting it multiple times. The "manual" valve control bit still works - pushing the button opens/closes it etc. Feel like I should get it replaced though as this a fairly critical piece of home infrastructure.

The EcoNet is kind of expensive but looks really well built - to me if it holds up it would be well worth it.

Do you still like the device? Any further thoughts?

It is really well built.

I can't answer that yet. My friend has only had it for a few months. He hasn't said anything negative about it.

I had a valve like a Dome myself a long time back. It crapped out on me also. So I replaced it with a LeakSmart that has worked flawlessly. But it requires some skills in sweating copper.


Okay great thanks for the info. I am going to go ahead and get it - will post back with my thoughts!

leakSMART looks cool too but rather stick with the valve thing first - this is not the kind of project I want to tackle as my first major plumbing project... I'll stick with toilets for now haha.. :rofl:


How far is your HE away from the Dome valve? When I migrated from Wink to HE, I had to move the HE pretty close to have it pair with the Dome. If you do this, be sure to perform a shutdown first on the HE before unplugging it. You'll also need a long Ethernet cable as well as there is no wifi in HE. Worth a try first before swapping out the Dome.

About 8 feet or so.. It was working a few months ago not sure what or when it happened - maybe a power issue. Not something I use all that frequently. I can still activate it manually so the motor etc is okay. Since this is a "critical" device I am going to replace it - better to be safe.

I may try and pair it with my dev hub for giggles to see if there is a difference with my main hub..

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So was able to pair it with my dev hub which is half the distance (maybe 4 ft) and on older firmware. Then excluded and tried again with the main hub. It was found but took a while to initialize then eventually came up and I was able to control via the UI. Will see how it goes from here.

The inconsistency has me a bit worried which is still why I am going to replace the unit with a different one. Will keep monitoring...

That's good to hear. Agree that the shutoff valve is a critical system that MUST work when needed (hopefully never). I do recall seeing that someone created a rule or app that exercises the valve once a month to confirm open/close status. Maybe someone can point us to the posting. I should probably set that exercise routine on my unit.

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I was thinking about adding a contact sensor on the lever for giggles - just to be doubly sure.

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I think that was @aaiyar but I could be mistaken.

Not me. But I also recall seeing it ....

Instead of another rule, you can place a water sensor under the refrigerator door. Assuming you've got an in-door water/ice dispenser, the sensor will probably get triggered about once a month. :slight_smile:

As another testament to the value of these sensors (and Hubitat, and the Dome water valves), I now know that I have a very slight leak from my dishwasher...only about 40ml of water (1.25oz) during a wash cycle, and I know that the water service valve gets shut off within ~30 seconds of the sensor being triggered.