Leviton outlet?

I have checked the List of Compatible Devices for Hubitat, and I've noticed this:

https://www.homedepot.ca/product/leviton-decora-z-wave-enabled-15-amp-scene-capable-receptacle/1001054238.

Leviton Decora Z-Wave outlet, Model # DZR15-1RZ

It is Z-Wave but it isn't listed on the supported devices, even though Leviton is listed on it. Is the Hubitat hub fussy that it doesn't recognize this particular model even though it's Z-Wave, or the list isn't updated since then it would be too many to list? I'm just trying to look into built in outlets that isn't too expensive but zigbee/zwave, not wifi ones.

Thanks for your help!

I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear that this is a Z-Wave Plus device. Adding non-Plus devices, especially ones that work as repeaters, could be bad for your Z-Wave network. I'd avoid this one if I were you. I'm not sure of any alternatives because I haven't been in the market for in wall outlets.

As @Derakkon notes, the Leviton DZR15-1RZ is not a Plus device.

I would highly recommend using a Leviton ZW15R-1BW (700 series) instead.

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These definitely work with Hubitat. I have several of them - they use the Generic z-wave outlet driver.

That being said, if you don't already have them, at this point of them I would recommend getting the z-wave+ v2 model that was linked to by @dennypage.

Yes, the DZR15-1RZ works with Hubitat... I was using DZR15-1RZs before I replaced them with ZW15R-1BWs. :slight_smile:

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@dennypage I will get the plus one as you recommended, but just wanting to educate myself, if they both work, why was it worth the effort to replace them all since those receptacles aren't exactly cheap? What was the benefits?

Thanks very much!

While they both work as repeaters in a z-wave network, the older ones have a much slower transmission rate (9.6 kbps) vs as high as 100 kbps for the newer ones.

The newer ones are also zwave+ v2, with the potential of a firmware update to support z-wave LR.

Plus devices are self healing (don't require a repair to fix up their routes). In addition, 700 series devices, even without Z-Wave Long Range, offer significantly longer range (30m vs 100m). In my case, my receptacles are all outside, so the range improvement resulted in a tremendous reliability improvement.

The ZW15R-1BW does have a chip that should support Z-Wave Long Range, however when contacted regarding Long Range support, Leviton said that Long Range is "a new technology" and that they currently have no plans to support it in the current product. Hopefully that will change in the future.

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I personally believe the Leviton DZR15-1RZ is a marginal product at best. At one point I had about a dozen of these. They were slow, of course that was after I actually got them working. Range is horrible and the only way to get any sort of consistency was to add many, many Z-Wave devices. Without a strong mesh, these are nothing but grief. There were also other inherent problems with them. I had one switching on/off a table lamp. When I would turn off the lamp, the bulb I used at the time never completely turned off. I contacted Leviton and was told this can happen. Apparently, to make the indicator on the front of the receptacle work, there is some small amount of current that continues to flow through the circuit. Really??? There are a tonne of Leviton products that I absolutely love and use on a regular basis. Unfortunately, these were just a waste of several hundred dollars.

I have since replaced them all with the GE/Jasco Z-Wave Plus receptacle. I've been extremely pleased with these.

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@dennypage I am not sure that the self-heal means you don't need to do a network heal with the controller. I think what it means is that YOU don't have to do it but that the controller still has to do it.

drzwave.blog/2017/01/20/seven-habits-of-highly-effective-z-wave-networks-for-consumers/

"Z-Wave nodes will try various routes to get their message thru if at first it doesn’t succeed. The node will remember the Last Working Route and try that one first for the next message. But if the nodes have no idea there are other nodes in the network they have no way of knowing what routes to try so at least one full heal of the network is required. "

Hey, welcome to the forum!

With both the device and the hub being Z-Wave Plus, if one node cannot reach another node it will send out broadcast discovery frames.

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I think maybe you had the wrong tech support guy.

The DZ15R is 3-wire. I have a couple and they have coils/relays. You can hear them switch. When you plug in a device it's basically a parallel connection so it doesn't need a load to work.

Perhaps you have a bad unit?

I have 8 of these. The observations described by @dcalder are 100% accurate. There is a small amount of leakage current even with the device is turned off.

Just curious.

What is the current measurement with an Ohmmeter across the load when the device is off?

Across which load?

With no load plugged in, and the device off, a Volt meter whose probes are stuck directly into the hot and neutral terminals of the receptacle measures about 55-57 VAC.

The same test performed with a GE Enbrighten z-wave plus receptacle measures 0 VAC, when the receptacle is off.

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I had 3 of them. I probably still have them in a ziplock bag in the garage... Let me know if you need a few more of them!

:slight_smile:

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Ok, so you measured voltage and not leakage current. Still valid, though.

I dont see that one mine.

Load dependent. I’ve measured as high as 3A.

I’m gradually replacing mine with GE units. The Leviton receptacles were the first zwave devices I got - 7 or 8 years ago.

Ah, ok. I called Leviton Support and the issue is those older 3-wire devices did have a snubber circuit across the relay that would supply a couple mA when off depending on the Load. I've never experienced it myself but I never used a Table Lamp, either.

They said the WiFi, ZigBee, BT devices, and the newer ZWave devices do not have that circuit. That's why I never saw it. OUCH!

Anyway, I just tested my ZW15Rs and no voltage when off, so I am good with these. I also have the ZW4SF Fan Speed I bought off Amazon. 3 Receptacles and 1 Fan Speed for my garage currently.