New users may use the list of compatible devices to determine what to buy when starting out using Hubitat. If there are specific issues with a device, what are they supposed to do? Research each device on the community before buying? It's hard enough to parse through the list for the devices that are still available.
A lot of people do post out here to find out what's recommended and not. Most people are jumping ship from other platforms. They're going to take what they had and hook it up. Although I think it's a good idea, you mentioned yourself that it's difficult to parse though the list for devices that are still available. I just think the information would become way too extensive. Like @SmartHomePrimer mentioned in another post, there will always be someone that blindly defends a product but fails to mention that they use it in a way that doesn't affect the rest of the environment. It's way too hard to moderate that for accurate information. Perhaps we could request a feature added to the list that would simply say known issues and let the user research the product. A simple search would reveal a lot of discussion about a problem product in the community. I think you should request that be added to the documentation. They may give us that much.
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Also, let's keep in mind that people do research a product extensively before they buy it because they're looking for a specific set of skills in that automation. I didn't just go out and buy 50 switches and motion sensors and bulbs at once only to find out that it was a huge mistake. Even if I could afford it. Most start out slowly and work into it. Most people with an established smart home already knows mostly what is going to give trouble and what isn't. And they don't stay quiet in the community when researching it.
What would be more useful is that we (users) start new threads for specific devices with known issues that get tagged for inclusion. Let users comment on the reliability/problems. If a general consensus is reached among the users that a problem is valid, even if it isn't seen as a problem by every user, then they could provide a link to that thread in the list of compatible devices. Along those same lines, the users could also document discontinued devices and provide that information to be included in the list of compatible devices. If we help, it would put a lot less work on the Hubitat team.
If home automation is their hobby, then people are going to either research devices or just buy singles of a device to test. I've bought several devices that weren't up for their intended usage and have been relegated to other tasks or just outright replaced. But a new (or light) user probably doesn't want to invest the time/money. Hubitat needs a clearly defined list of items that work out-of-the-box to let this group be able to get started without a high level of frustration or having to work around the idiosyncrasies of a device. That's what I "thought" the list of supported devices would be when I first started with the Hubitat.
Ah .. good point, well made. All you can do is post it out there in a separate thread and see how the community feels about it. I don't think it's a bad idea.
One thing to keep in mind is you are calling it a list of Supported devices, but Hubitat actually calls it a list of Compatible devices.
They donāt support these devices, but have tested each one of them and they are all compatible with the hub. E.g. Your mileage may vary.
As soon as you start saying that a device has problems, you get a bunch of people jumping in to say it does not. There are just way too many variables involved that can influence whether a device is going to work perfectly for one owner, versus become a complete nightmare for another. The general consensus on Zigbee lightbulbs is they are not good at repeating for anything other than other bulbs. Best results are achieved when they are on a separate Zigbee network, such as a Philips Hue Bridge or another Hubitat hub, and then controlled with an integration.
Sengled are the only exception to that quirk of Zigbee bulbs, because they do not even try to repeat Zigbee signals. It isnāt hard at all to find this information. Itās been repeated over and over again, here and on other forums. Yet people just wonāt search and read. They dive in head first and then often raise a big stink that they were not informed. All the information is there for them, but they must make the effort to find it. It is also in the official documents too.
We post links to this information. Weāre as welcoming and helpful as we can be. We type the same information and recommendations again and again. Some accept the help, some fight it, and some only half follow it, then complain that it doesnāt work.
This is a great hub, but itās not a magic, do whatever you want, add whatever you want and everything will work perfectly hub. No one ever made that claim and not one of them in existence is like that.
I can tell you from first hand experience that a curated hub with extreme limits on the devices does work almost perfectly. Thatās not what most hubs are though. They are all trying to accomplish maximum compatibility and with no strict standards (Donāt kid yourselves, there arenāt any), this is not possible all the time.
OMG, HE licking it now??? Hahaha
Dead cat, for sure!
The next door HE user will rip it off! Hehe
\\RogerThat
Just bought a lot of 10 Iris iL06-1 (v3) contact sensors off eBay (same seller shown in previous posts that has been selling the V2s, motion detectors,etc). Cheaper than the V2s that this seller has. While the V3s aren't listed in the Compatible Devices list, a number of users on this Community have had no problems with them using the same Generic Zigbee Contact Sensor driver, so should be ok.
All you can do is try
I have about 40 of those distributed throughout my house connected to HE and have no problems whatsoever, they work like a charm
Is it the V3 Iris Motions that have temperature and humidity too?
I have a couple of NYCE (wall and ceiling) which do motion, temperature and humidity and they are awesome, tiny little things .... but unfortunately it seems impossible to get these shipped to the UK even begging NYCE directly
Yes.
They're on my big and ugly list.. Not sure what Lowe's was thinking but all of ther v3 devices are bigger and uglier than their predecessors. I bought one when they were on clearance and that was enough for me.
Is that the IL071?
Are they reliable motion / temperature / humidity?
Just want to make sure before I go to the hassle of importing some over here
They do look a bit big though, probably about 4 times the size of the teeny tiny NYCE!
They have been super reliable for me.
@ogiewon
What kind of magnets did you use? i have a surplus of rare earth magnets from my daughter school project si i can use those hopefully? Or i'm switching sensors from wyze to these, will the wyze magnet would work with these?
https://community.hubitat.com/t/iris-vs-xiaomi-motion-sensors/28026/70?u=alexd51
I used some rare earth ābarā magnets, with pieces of 3M Command Strips as adhesive. Since the magnets are so strong, you may need try a few positions to see what works well, without causing ādouble activationsā.
I would try the Wyze magnets first, though.
You might also be able to the magnets from these reed switches...
https://www.amazon.com/BNYZWOT-Surface-Contact-Sensor-Magnetic/dp/B07VSVZYHW
I will try the wyze magnets if they dont work i will get those you linked. The magnets i have are way too powerful. that's the reason i took them away from my daughter because it pinched her fingers more than once and same to me. They only way to take them apart is with a big knife and slicing between them lol.