Iphone presence between multiple hubs/sites - iOS 18 breaking existing presence detector

[JoeK]

Hey there,

So I've been using the iPhone presence sensor driver from Joel Wetzel for a while. But with iOS 18 it seems that the presence isnt consistent anymore (likely more power savings and more security happening on the connection). So using the new Hubitat app is an option. I have 2 different sites though with their own Hubitat environments... and even if I have them connected (which I do with HubConnect for using Echo skill across both environments, which is a kludge and an issue with Amazon only allowing one Hubitat skill per account, but thats besides the point)

Joels web request based presence detector works well or has until iOS18, it may still if I move out the tollerance window for the device being not detected.. but I was looking at the Hubitat app and the geofence again.

The issue is the app can only exist on one hub at a time. So presence is only one hub at a time which negates the usefulness of it.

Anyone else seeing iOS 18 causing issues with the iphone detector Joel made? or ideas on how to do geofence for multiple environments?

[bobbyD]

@JoeK

how to do geofence for multiple environments?

Multi-geofence support is not possible with existing Hubitat mobile apps, as you correctly identified. Support for multiple geofences is on the list of future enhancements, however we do not have a time-frame when this feature may be released.

[nclark]

While you wait for multi-geofence in the Wubitat app, may I suggest you look at Locative on IOS, this little app can have as many locations as you want and since the locations are tied to webhooks with MakerAPI cloud endpoints, you can send the info to multiple hubs on the same setup. Check the below link for very detailed setup instructions. Then repeat at the second location. When I had 2 locations, I used this method and it was very reliable, now that I sold my main home and now live in the country cabin, I still use it.

Locative Presence app for iOS full setup

Locative is a great app for presence sensing but is only available for iPhones. I previously used Life360 free version for over a year without any issues. I noticed that it would typically consume about 1% of my iPhone battery per day. I was not concerned with the privacy issues of being tracked. About a year and a half ago I saw a post by @ogiewon mentioning Locative. The cool thing about Locative - your phone decides when it is inside or outside your defined locations and only when your pho…

I will also be trying to use to detect if I'm on my way home or away from home by using 3-4 concentric circles around my house, this way in winter, I will be able to automate my thermostats to go up when it determines that I'm on my way home and vice-versa instead of just relying on the single circle. Also if I go to the corner store, it won't change anything unless I move out farther than that, etc.

Your imagination is the only limit to what you can do with geofencing using this app