Innr Lights for Hubitat Elevation


Please can you offer some advice.

I am about to purchase a Hubitat Elevation and I live in the UK.
From researching on this forum, I am aware that Sengeled lights work well with the Hubitat, but unfortunately in England, Sengeled are currently not selling the color smart light bulb, which is what I am after.
I am just wondering whether Innr lights work seamlessly with the Hubitat or whether there are any issues that I need to be aware of?
Those lights are not mentioned in any great detail on the Hubitat compatibility list.

Thank you in advance.

I was able to pair and use them with my Hubitat hub just fine. However, I don't know if they're on the "naughty list" of questionable/bad Zigbee repeaters (see the note about Zigbee bulbs at the end of Hubitat's Zigbee tips doc, where Sengled are mentioned as known-good because they are not repeaters at all, or a variety of forum posts). I do not have the tools to objectively evaluate this, e.g., a Zigbee sniffer with traffic I know should be routing through them, and suspect most people here also do not but can subjectively tell you whether they have had problems. FWIW, I haven't seen anyone mention them in that manner.

I also can tell you that they work fine with a Hue Bridge, and that is how I would recommend using them--avoiding this question in the first place. :slight_smile: But you might be fine with them directly paired, too.

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Thank you so much for your prompt and helpful reply. That really is good to know.
I keep on reading about repeaters on the forum, what exactly does that mean?
I'm wondering whether the amount of Light sockets you have in your home makes a difference?

Thank you.

Zigbee and Z-Wave are mesh protocols, meaning that all of your devices do not need to be able to communicate directly to the hub (Hubitat). Other devices in the middle can act as "repeaters," relaying messages to/from the device and extending the range of your network. Most powered devices (USB or mains) are repeaters. No battery-powered devices are (this would eat the batteries up). Zigbee and Z-Wave are separate protocols and will only repeat for their own protocol, and each will also only repeat for the hub/network they are joined to (e.g., if you have a Hue Bridge, those bulbs will not repeat for devices joined to Hubitat).

To add to the above, there's a small problem: many Zigbee bulbs seem to be bad repeaters when mixed with non-bulb devices, as you might do on Hubitat. Most of these seem to do fine in their own, and this isn't a problem if you're using a Hue Bridge and keep them there. It can be a problem on Hubitat. There are a few bulbs well known as being on this naughty list (Hue, Cree, GE Link, and at least early Osram/Sylvania come to mind), a few known not to be (Sengled because they are odd: powered devices that just don't repeat in the first place), and lots where I'm not sure we have any objective data (Ikea Tradfri, Innr, and more).

The document I linked to above may be a good read for more information: How to Build a Solid Zigbee Mesh - Hubitat Documentation. Also, the Z-Wave equivalent: How to Build a Solid Z-Wave Mesh - Hubitat Documentation.

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Thank you very much for clearing up for me, the information you have provided is really helpful.

Thank you.

In my testing they are fine. They are ZigBee 3.0 as well so that would explain why they have worked well.

One thing I noticed on them (as with all ZigBee 3.0 lamps) is when they turn on they do a "dance" you get used to it but it's abit annoying. @mike.maxwell has said that a new driver is needed for the newer lamps to get them working correctly, no driver yet. Obviously they have been abit busy with other projects.

The built in driver does work for them though you just need to plan your rules so to send a ON or level then delay 200ms then set the colour or temperature. This is the same for even old lamps though (in the EU it seems).

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