[Initial Release] Rule Machine Manager (New Rule Machine Interface)

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Yep.. I've landed on that page hundreds of times in my research.
Unfortunately, those are all actions.
Yes, I can manually pause/resume a rule... but there is no way for me to GET its state.

I keep coming back to MakerAPI.
I just really don't like the idea of a dependency and its associated overhead.

Perhaps I can setup the framework; create a beta branch; and let you guys test.
I'm curious, @rgr, are you already using MakerAPI?

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Thanks to the awesome suggestion by @hubitrep to use the @thebearmay 's code example; I was able to implement a working solution.

While it's not my favorite idea; it does only make one call to an http endpoint. I'm able to scrape the data I need; and build an array used for comparisons.

I have tested with both new and existing implementations; and it seems ready for user testing. Let me know how it works for you.

Btw, it's version 1.1.6.

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Great! I just tested this app and it works just as expected.

I just have a suggestion;

To know if an app is paused or not is actually very important, so I suggest to use maybe a Bold style on that “paused” word, to make it very visible.

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To avoid issues with hub security, calls like this

            httpGet([ uri: "http://${location.hub.localIP}:8080/hub2/appsList" ]) { resp ->

need to be changed to this

            httpGet([ uri: "http://127.0.0.1:8080/hub2/appsList" ]) { resp ->

My understanding is that calls received on the loopback interface (on port 8080) don't require authentication (for fairly obvious reasons I think).

I started seeing paused and disabled rules after making this change.

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That is correct, any endpoints called from apps should use 127.0.0.1:8080

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FWIW @joshlobe I was going to share the same requests.

Some other random ramblings for your consideration:

  • "Copy rule" for a moment I thought I could create backups of my rules but then realized it only creates an alias so I can have the same rule in multiple containers. So maybe "create rule alias" ?
  • Similarly, "Delete rule" appears for aliases, which was kind of scary, so... "Delete rule alias" ?
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One last thing and then I'll stop spamming you, promise:

  • Consider adding a filter for each container (a global filter would also be handy) - would have been very useful for sifting through and categorizing my 120+ rules
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Not at all. I appreciate the feedback!
I'll start working on those changes :slight_smile:

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Version 2.0 of Rule Machine Manager has just been released!

In this version; we are completely using the http get request, instead of the integrated rule manager function; to populate the initial rules and use for comparisons.

Version 2.0 Features

  • New API for listing rules and their paused/disabled states.
  • New color theme for the settings page.
  • Multi-select has been added, allowing selection of more than one rule before moving.
  • New confirmation dialogs added to aide in understanding intended functionality.
  • The "Move" and "Collapse/Expand" buttons have been moved to the container header area, and outside from the container dropdown list.
  • Added container filters and a global filter, allowing rules to be filtered based on text matches. There is a global option to hide these filters, if desired.
  • Added a welcome/help message.

I am currently exploring the oauth feature; and how to use oauth to make requests to the individual rules using the rule maching api. This would allow me to create additional buttons for each rule; such as "Pause Rule", "Resume Rule", and "Run Rule Actions",

Before I commit too much time to the oauth stuff; I'm curious if anyone would find this additional functionality useful??

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Great update! Huge usability bump.

  • I couldn't get multi-select (ctrl-click) to work on macos Sequoia 15.2 (Chrome 132.0.6834.110)
  • the filter boxes should probably be shaded to indicate they are active
  • the rule count could reflect the active filter (so one doesn't have to go and expand every container to find globally-filtered rules)

Sounds good although I don't honestly know how much I would personally use these. I think a link to the rule's live logs and app status would be good.

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Ahh... I didn't think about macs. That should be a quick fix.

Do you mean when you have input something in a filter box; that box should be highlighted?

Of course the rule counts should update; how did I miss that one?!

Love it!

When I edit a rule in RM, on the top right of the page, there are 4 icons. The cog wheel is the rule status page. The document icon is to the rule logs page. But when I click this icon; it takes me to the logs page with no logs. Where exactly are the logs for a rule?

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There aren’t any unless you’ve enabled them in the rule. Another thing I’d like to enable from outside the rule if I could…

Yeah it’s easy to miss otherwise.. lots of support topics on this forum regarding the device and app filters before they got shaded when in use…

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Thank you very much.
I understand now. (I didn't know about logging rules, thanks for that)
I'll incorporate these best I can into the next release.
I appreciate your feedback.

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Terrific update, thank you!

One minor request: An "Accept" or "Update" button that does the same thing as "Done" but does not close the page.

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Version 2.1 (2025-01-30)

  • New mobile friendly layout.
  • Mobile design complete rework. App is much cleaner on mobile devices now.
  • Added multiple select support for Mac systems.
  • Container color now completely covers container and rules.
  • Title Color has been replaced with Font Color. This is the font color used throughout the container.
  • Edit Container is new, and will open an overlay where the container options can be selected (colors, bold, container title).
  • Added Hide Counts and Hide Filters buttons to the top of the page.
  • Added two new rule actions; View Rule Logs and View Rule Status. These are quicklinks to the corresponding rule pages.
  • Added a new Quick Save feature. This features requires oAuth on the app. Clicking the Quick Save button will open a walkthrough on how to enable oAuth.
  • New overlay for Create Container button.
  • Added filter highlights. When typing in a filter, it will change color to indicate it is active.
  • When moving rules between containers; the rules will "inherit" the styles of the container where they are placed.
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I just installed and am having the problem another user referenced about nothing working. The buttons are not clickable to create container or anything else. I am running on Edge.

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Hello there. I apologize for the inconvenience.
So, your image looks correct. Those are the two files; and the sizes are correct.
The second image also looks correct.

Let's try from a different browser first; just to check.
Next, let's turn on the debug log; load the rule machine manager page again; and let's see what the logs look like.

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Hey Josh, thanks for the quick reply. I always use Edge so I had to download Chrome. As I was bringing it up in Chrome I realized the problem. I bring up my Hubitat interface by typing in the public hostname hubitat.mydomain.com which is a tunnel hosted in Cloudflare. I have just gotten used to doing this so I don't have to remember the IP address. This did not work on Chrome either so I tried 192.168.xxx.xxx and this worked on Chrome and on Edge. Now I see in known bugs you have "App does not load correctly when using remote admin." I assume this is the same type thing so please excuse me for raising this as an issue before catching this myself.

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Thank you for the valuable feedback.
Yep.. it looks like I need to setup remote admin on my other hub and test.
I'll add this to my next dev cycle.

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Version 2.1.1 (2025-01-30)

  • Fixed app loading resources while using remote admin.
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