Hubitat Live!

My wife and I both being profound deaf, we are looking forward to see improvement with notifications on mobile app.

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Personally I've never been happy with the built in notifier. I've found Pushover to be rock solid though...

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I :heart: Pushover. I use it extensively.

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It is? With what. I am behind.

Hubitat dashboards, SharpTools, a few other home grown dashboards.

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I'm not sure the Home Remote mobile phone app gets enough recognition. Download the app on your phone, install an instance of Maker API, and expose the devices you want. It's pretty slick even without all of the customization options it has available.

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It is an investment though - it can do so many things but requires you appreciate (learn) it's capabilities and allocate time to the solution. But it's capabilities are second to none really, recommended if you're serious about the results. Effort creates reward.

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With the latest sneak peek, we saw there was a device firmware update option. I'm curious if that means ya'll (Hubitat) will start reaching out to vendors to get them to provide firmwares for their devices that they don't provide to directly to end users (I'm thinking Jasco).

Thanks! Can't wait!

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AFAIK, Jasco doesn’t provide firmware updates to vendors either.

Kind of like Schlage in that regard.

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I believe last time I asked them they said they only provide to vendors. I questioned it because from what I'd read, no hub makers did OTA zwave updates (Wink and ST only do Zigbee updates)... they never gave me a straight answer.

I assume if HE provides Zwave updates natively, they may have better luck (or not) getting updates out of Jasco...

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HomeSeer does. Via their Z-flash utility.

Right. But that would be providing those updates to end users... which they said they don't do.

You're right. I think Jasco avoids releasing updates, but it's always been a catch-22. They say they don't release them to end users, only vendors. But no vendors (until apparently Hubitat soon?) provide Zwave OTA updates.

So... it's mainly the question of if HE would be willing to reach out to Jasco and see if we can at least call their "bluff".

Jasco’s product certification pages at z-wavealliance.org say “Firmware Updatable: Updatable by Consumer by RF”.

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The one assumption here that there are actually various firmware updates for a particular device. They CAN be updated in theory, but if there isn't an update available, that does no good. Maybe the firmware is only good for a particular chip or circuit board or whatever. I don't think there has been enough research in this area to catalog all of (Jasco's in this case) part numbers and corresponding firmwares.

If someone was creative, they would find a way to do a firmware dump, revise things, and provide that "hacked" firmware to others. This is an extremely common way to do things for many devices like automotive engine control modules, phones, and similar. I am actually surprised nobody has done this for Zwave or Zigbee too. A light switch cannot be anywhere near as complicated as even a phone.

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From what I can tell, VERY few manufacturers have released zwave firmwares because it's traditionally not been needed. So unless someone leaked the firmwares from the zwave alliance, or from the manufacturer, it seems unlikely we'd get anything but compiled code.

I haven't done any serious digging into devices, so I have no idea how easy they would be to either dump the firmware, or to unbrick if you tried to push a hacked firmware to them. =/

I wish Fibaro would release firmware updates to vendors.. They want everyone to have one of their hubs.

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Yep, i have a light hub just for it :rage: . It's a awful hub!

if people are willing to cover the postage i would be willing to upgrade there items if needed.

Just wondering... Will there be a Hubitat live event to highlight the updates/features in FW 2.2.5?

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I’ve been playing with Home Remote recently in my quest to build an interface that has more polish. With the lengths folks are going to, to improve the native dashboarding capability and some of the admittedly creative, yet elaborate, solutions people come up with - there is already a time investment needed if you want an interface that doesn’t look like a DIY solution on your wall.

Home Remote gives you immense flexibility and a desktop based WYSIWYG designer that although does come with a learning curve is immensely powerful and has various OOB integrations such as Sonos. It’s local and more performant than the native dashboards even on old hardware. I’ve just repurposed a first gen iPad mini that struggles with running stock apple apps - it works fine with Home Remote!

The only thing that is now restricting what can be created for me is a lack of design skill on my part ! but the software doesn’t constrain you; I’ve yet to find something I couldn’t achieve in Home Remote. You can see my first efforts in the post below.. I intend to share the project files once I’ve got the basics working as a sort of “template” and I’m sure someone with more design UX/UI skill than me can add some polish ...

https://community.hubitat.com/t/the-home-remote/

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Didn’t the Live show mention ActionTiles coming to Hubitat? Any update on that?