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No they don't.

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Always nice to have cheap, locally available ZigBee device options. It feels like we're finally seeing ZigBee devices available from local retailers other than specialist smart home places. Great for competition and subsequently prices!

FYI: The Telstra outlets are Zigbee, they’re cheaper, they include power monitoring and have on/off button.

I have 3 of them :slight_smile: , was just curious to know if they did.

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Hi all - still on the hunt to replace this old thermostat with something Hubitat compatible. I have identified 4 options on AliExpress that I am confident can be wired correctly in place of my existing thermostat, but I'm not so sure about the pros/cons in terms of hooking up to Hubitat. I'd really appreciate some thoughts from those with more experience.

Here we go:

  1. Tuya thermostat (wifi) - Tuya but Wifi, I guess I could control via the Tuya apps and connect via Google Assistant and control (cloud only) via Hubitat?
  2. Mijia thermostat (wifi) - Same hardware as #1, but flashed with Mijia software so compatible with their ecosystem. I would have to connect to Hubitat via Google Assistant as well. One advantage is I do have a few other Mijia devices that I use via their app but automation would still need to happen via Hubitat (to connect to my other sensors)
  3. Moes Thermostat (zigbee) - Zigbee so hopefully can connect in to Hubitat directly, but looking at the community chat, nobody has been successful getting a driver working (Tuya as well)
  4. Tuya Thermostat (zigbee) - Another Zigbee option, likely same underlying Tuya hardware as #3, not sure of driver/compatibility for Hubitat either. I guess being generic Tuya means there's a chance I could somehow get it working with Hubitat natively which is the ideal situation

The tradeoffs seem to be, Wifi will likely work but via Google Assistant, so only Cloud-based. But the Zigbee ones may not work easily but if they do it will be a nicer setup as Hubitat can interface directly.

Thoughts?

None of the above.

Imo, the Zen Zigbee units are the best available atm for use with HE. I've had mine for about 6 months now and am very happy with them. Very high WAF too - my wife likes them better than our old nest's too.

Hah, thanks. But unfortunately I don't think I can use the Zen or any 24v thermostat. I actually have a Nest Thermostat from my previous house which I can't use either :frowning:

My old thermostat is 240v switched (on/off only) which is connected to a Hydronic system. There isn't many Zigbee (or even Wifi) options that support that kind of set up.

Ah that sucks. :frowning:

You could use the 24v output of a thermostat to trigger a 240v relay.

Or, you could do away with a thermostat, and use a simple Zigbee switch module (or Wifi, etc) to switch the 240v line for your hydronic system. Use Hubitat's virtual thermostat, or program your own smart thermostat to how you want it. I created my own thermostat logic in Node Red, and I'm pretty happy with it. I don't have a screen to monitor/control the thermostat, but I find that I've now got the logic set up well enough that I really never need to adjust anything.

ps. You would also need a device to measure temps. I actually use an average of several sensors in the house for this reading.

That sounds interesting. How would that work? What would I connect the 24v thermostat into? And I guess I would need to convert the current 240v line to 24v to power the 24v thermostat as well?

This is actually what I do now and it's been working fairly well in terms of automation. The hydronic system plugs into a power plug so I just have a zigbee smart plug at the wall and then a virtual thermostat in hubitat connected to my temperature sensors across the house to turn the power on/off. It does leave me with a non-usable thermostat in the wall though (and its super old) so I would still prefer to replace it with a working thermostat that can also control things.

I have one of the Telstra outlets set as a Generic Zigbee Outlet and I have the "Enable automatic power reporting" set to 60W to monitor the waashing machine. I am finding that the device is reporting any change in power resulting over a 1000 events for the wash cycle. This then causes other rules I have setup to be also run thousands of times.

Is this a known bug and is there any fix?

dev:152021-03-22 18:54:25.124 infoPlug1 power is 3W
dev:152021-03-22 18:54:23.134 infoPlug1 power is 8W
dev:152021-03-22 18:54:05.107 infoPlug1 power is 14W
dev:152021-03-22 18:54:04.120 infoPlug1 power is 26W
dev:152021-03-22 18:54:02.125 infoPlug1 power is 4W
dev:152021-03-22 18:53:53.125 infoPlug1 power is 15W

You hit Configure and Save Prefs after making that change in the device driver ?
I’m not paying attention to power monitoring on mine but the way I understood it, is that it should only report when it gets 60watts.
Set it to 500watts and see how often it reports.

Edit: just checked one of mine and yes it reports the power value every minute.

G'day all, I finally found some dimmable LED globes via Amazon (the stores here all want to flog you "smart" dimmable globes) to use in our bedside lamps.

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07TKZFCBV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So I whipped up a Compact case design that allows you to install them in-line on a 2-wire lamp cord.

And they work great! :slight_smile:

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I admire your ingenuity but if saving money was your goal, isn't there a plethora of cheap smart bulb options out there that would be half the price of a Shelly/bulb combo? I have the Shelly dimmer on our deck downlights (4 off) and the advantage was being able to control the lights through a button in our standard wall plate for WAF. Financially, even with 4 standard downlights vs smart lights, it was line ball.

I had Phillips hue globes previously, However I wanted a system Hubitat can control natively that supports device level power recovery.

Most smart globes are crap and now future globe replacements are only $9 each, and they look amazing too.

What are the options for garage door control in Australia?
I have an RF-controlled Homentry unit, without a wired wall switch, so can't use the normal Z-wave relays.
My garage door guy said that most units are RF-only these days.
Broadlink doesn't support the rolling codes, so is it Bond or nothing? I'd prefer not to use RF as the single button operates up/stop/down.

I'm using a $5 sonoff relay running tasmota that just bridges the terminals on the back of the motor. Runs off a 5v adapter plugged into the same power point as the garage door motor.

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I use a Shelly 1 on my garage door openers. The best part was that the garage door opener has a 35v DC power output/terminal, so I used that to power the Shelly rather than having to get another power supply.

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Unfortunately not @zukand my day job has been keeping me fairly busy and I haven't personally needed the capability yet so I haven't gotten around to it. I am sure I will address it at some point, just can't commit to a time frame at the moment.

What motor do you have? Do you get position control (open/close) or does the relay just simulate button presses?